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Obama Out to Erase Second Amendment?

Should President Barack Obama secure a second term as president it will “break the back of the Second Amendment” and excise the right to bear arms from the Constitution, the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre tells Newsmax.TV.

The executive vice president of the NRA, in an exclusive interview at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, said the GOP candidates for president are all solid in their support of the Second Amendment.

“People have to keep in mind out there that if President Obama gets one more term it will break the back of the Second Amendment in this country,” LaPierre said. “He is out to erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights, excise it from the Constitution of the United States. This is the most dangerous election of our lifetime if you are a supporter of the Second Amendment. And the truth really is if he gets reelected we will go to our grave mourning the freedom that will be lost.”

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  • Greg F

    December 9, 2005 MITT ROMNEY FORCED the Roman Catholic Hospitals to distribute the Morning -After Pill. Governor MITT ROMNEY announced Roman Catholic and other private Hospitals will be FORCED to offer emergency contraception under new state legislation regardless of the Hospitals moral position.

    MITT ROMNEY did the same thing Obama is now doing. This election is about freedom of speech. About freedom of religion. About the governments control over our lives. If you want more of the same and to live in TYRANY and OPPRESSION vote for MITT ROMNEY!

    • JMJ

      Hek NO, I’m not voting for Romney nor queen Obozo the “It.” As a true Kentuckian I’m not giving my gun up. And my gun will be buried with me. “Give me liberty or give me death!!!” See website: http://www.haasstrep68.com
      America, you can help Judicial Watch, a watchdog organization fighting corruption, stop Obozo and his ACORN affiliate “Project Vote” from stealing the 2012 elections. Judicial Watch have evidence that “the integrity of the 2012 elections is now under a sustained and systematic assault by the corrupt Obama political machine.” If you want to help contact: Thomas Fitton, President of Judicial Watch, 425 Third Street SW, Suite 800, Washington, DC 20024; Tel: (202) 646-5172; FAX: (202) 646-5199 email: info@judicialwatch.org website: http://www.JudicialWatch.org

      • American

        America is screwd..Too many brainwashed people in our country,,everybody wants something different..We all have to get on the same page here people ,,if getting our country back to our founding fathers constitution of the united states,
        “United we stand, Divided we fall”..
        listen to this song by Pink Floyd,,Hey You
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfypuDNjPNY&feature=related

        • Uncle Sam

          Dividing us is one of the radical left’s plan for American takeover – it’s right out of the radical leftist playbook, “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky.

      • http://cowboybyte karen

        I second that on Judicial Watch, they are trying to stay on top of the O Administration, they are constantly soepoening(misspell) records and emails from the White House, Justice Dept etc. Files many lawsuits–they list all that they have filed and where they stand, believe me the DOJ and White House do not respond in a timely manner but JW stays on them, well worth sending them some money.

    • Mr. Right

      A Mitt is what a catcher uses to play baseball, not a President. Stay locked and loaded my friends. When they come for my guns they will be looking at the business end of the barrel.

      • Norm

        Mr. Right, you won’t be able to stand down the 82nd Airborne with a 30-06! We need to put a conservative in the White House.

        • toosmarttovoteGOP

          Because that worked SO well the last time, except he never won election, he lied us into war, he REFUSED to go after bin Laden, he tanked the economy, he increased the size of the government…

          • JocasseeJO

            ToosmarttovoteGOP: Are you too smart to vote DEM also? But that’s an oxymoron! No the problem is you’re equating GOP (Repub) with conservative. When George Bush was elected, a Repub (not a conservative) was elected and you know what, he did a lot of things that true conservatives don’t agree with or believe in. But the answer is not Obama and my fear is the answer is not Romney either. God help us.

          • Wizzid

            He was no conservative, W was what you Liberals like to call a “Moderate”. I call them RINOs.

          • LittleFartBert

            Hey toosmarttovoteGOP, I have a question for you. Have you ever heard of someone named Hitler? He took away every one’s guns, then he took away their freedom. By having every one registering their guns, he knew where all the guns were and he then confiscated all of them. Once he had all the guns, he could take away their freedom. Sounds like that is what good old czarbama is up to. Of course if czarbama wants my guns, he can have them, but it will be bullets first.

        • TOM

          NORM, I’M A VIETNAM COMBAT VETERAN AND TOOK THE SAME OATH EVERY VETERAN TAKES ! THE KEY WORD IN THAT OATH IS ” ENEMIES ” ! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT THE ENEMIES, THE TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT IS ! SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I WOULD NEVER FIRE ON THE AMERICAN AND DO NOT THINK OUR CURRENT MILITARY WOULD EITHER ON PEOPLE TRYING TO GET RID OF TYRANNY , OUR FOREFATHERS SET THIS NATION UP DOING JUST THAT. PUT ME IN THE BRIG, I’M SHOOTING AT THE REAL ENEMIES ! SEMPER FI, TOM

          • G

            I Have Made This Same Argument in The Past, I am A Korean Wartime 1952 Combat Marine, Cheers, Semper Fi.

          • John D

            Amen Tom,my powder is dry JD

        • LG

          300 million 30-06’s can. Think about the number of guns that the American people own. Just between myself, my brother, and my dad we have over 30. Now multiply that by atleast 150 million people. I don’t think the gov wants any of it. That is why they don’t just outlaw them outright. Besides, the military is sworn to uphold the costitution and then obey the president. So the 2nd amendment would have to be changed by an amendment which requires 2/3 of the house and then has to be ratified by 3/4 of the states. This is why they try to pass temporary legislation that chips away at our gun rights without us noticing. Besides, liberals are the ones that don’t have guns, so let ‘em try to take ours away and we can end the liberal movement once and for all.

        • Devildogger

          No need to fight the 82nd, or any US military outfit, because an order to the military to attack the people of this country is an illegal order. And as such, the general officers will not follow it. The US military takes an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, not some laughably impotent wannabe dictator. As a US Marine, I can assure you the officer corps will not pay attention to ANY illegal order issued by lil barry.

      • George

        mr. wrong ‘; The article was about the muslim/ commie ; not Mitt . Now , go take your medication, and go back to bed.

        • pikemaster

          George you are right ,it’s about obutthead not Mitt ,but the facts are that if Mitt is elected the 2nd admin. wouldn’t stand long either. Mitt “IS” an anti-gunner himself and doesn’t want the gun rights of our citizens to get in his way either. Be careful of who we get as a GOP to run against the king ! God Bless.

          • AZ Don

            I will agree with you when you show me a statement about that, that come from Wayne LaPierre. Until then I choose not to believe you. Wayne said if obama is reelected he would destroy the 2nd amendment not Romney. People who spread lies to denigrate one candidate in an effort to improve the view of another are as bad as obama!

            As a life member of the NRA I trust Wayne much more than you.

          • bobby nealey

            AZ Don I agree with you 100%.

          • DENNIS

            Our best bet in November, is to make sure we elect a majority of conservatives/republicans to the house and senate !!!!! If we got 65 senators (5 extra just in case) and keep the majority in the house, it would not matter who was in the white house!! We could pass what we needed, and over ride any veto, and get this country back on track,,, and not headed down the road to “the country that “was” that destroyed itself, just like Argentina” !! Get everyone you know to the polls in Nov. If every republican out there voted we could take back the country,,,, with only 30 to 40% of eligible voters voting every year, if all republicans voted, we could do it!!!!! Stop saying your vote doesn’t count!!

          • JoJo

            http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/287415/romney-s-tax-hikes-deroy-murdock

            Mitt will be worse than Obama. People will be voting him in office because they believe the GOP that he is a conservative. He’s not. He’s a globalist just like Newt. He will also keep Obamacare in place…just watch.

        • Ray Sarchet

          This subject is about loss of freedom. You know – Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion,
          Freedom to own you own property (includes farms and homes), FREEDOM TO OWN AND
          POSSESS GUNS (to protect ourselves from TYRANNY).

          That’s the TYRANNY of Hussein Obama and/or a kinder gentler Obama called MITT ROMNEY!

          • Clyde McPhatter

            I read a lot of the posts in this thread, but I’m commenting at this location because what of what is apparent. This kind of issue is a hot button alright, and people here are gettin’ vicious. Let us not form a circular firing squad, alright? All of us, it appears, agreed upon some basic principles: leave the blame constitution alone, and protect and preserve it. That means we want our rights to bear arms, to worship (or not) as we please without a state-sponsored religion, we desire freedom of speech and assembly. People are getting mighty hot over how different folks express this, but cool off and don’t get rattled. None of us like RINOs, the liberals/socialists, and none of us can stomach Obama. As Ben Franklin so aptly stated during the formulation of our great nation, “If we don’t hang together, we shall all hang separately.” Let’s join on common principles, and put that effort toward stopping Obama. If we can’t find that grand statesman who IS a conservative, then we’re stuck with ABO (Anybody but Obama). It IS what it IS.

          • michael

            We should all be on John Boehner’s ass about this. He is the Speaker of the House and he and Congress can impeach the idiot in charge. Boehner has not been doing his job. He has allowed this punk to run loose like a bull in a china shop wrecking our Constitution. People need to stand up to this two bit punk and demand he be removed from office. Obummer took an oath of office to uphold the Constitution and he has violated that oath, so now it is time to put the prick in his place and get rid of him!

          • GINGER GHENT

            Response to Michael…how many times have you called Boehner and expressed to him what your concerns are?? I have called numerous times…why don’ t you join me?? His number is
            202-225-6205

          • Donna

            so right you are!

          • OldNYFirefighter

            Romney is not what I would call anti-gun, but he isn’t really pro-gun either. Massachusetts gun laws are terrible, but if I remember correctly, most were enacted before Romney became Governor of that State. I don’t remember Romney signing any anti-gun legislation while he was in office. That said, I also don’t remember him rescinding any of the gun laws either. Irregardless of what he says now, he will probably leave the gun laws as they are, neither signing new ones or repealing ones already in effect. Just my two cents worth from observing him during his Governorship.

          • Miss Vinay Duggal

            …all of that and Hilary Clinton,the UN, and Agenda 21. None of this can happen. Protect America…Vote for Newt Gingrichin 2012.

        • Mr. Right

          George,
          Learn how to read, My comment was in responce to Greg F’s post. This issuse is about protecting our 2nd amendment rights. Read past the first sentence. Went to a public school, didn’t you?

          • A.B.

            evidently, so did you. Try spell-checking next time, please.

          • wally stewart

            GEORGE SOROS BUYING UP GUN MANUFACTURERS

            http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1202/144/George_Soros_Controls_All_Arms_Ammo_Makers_In_The_U.S..html
            Subject: Who is buying companies making guns(Remington, Bushmaster,etc)???? For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers.Some of the companies are Bushmaster,Marlin,Remington,DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companies in the United States . If you control the manufacturers you can decide to stop selling to civilians.What a perfect way to control guns. Now if you do somedigging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management. Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS !!!!!!!!! One of the most evil men on this planet who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out.Why have we not heard about this in the “mainstream” media? I would think this would be BIG news.

          • Barbara
          • http://CowboyByte.com ?

            Cerberus, was also the parent company for the Chysler Corporation and Albertsons Food Store. A few years ago Michael Savage on his talk show was talking about Cerberus ans said that George H. Bush and Dan Quayle were also involved with Cerberus. Soreass was not mentioned at the time. This was when Bush was the President.

        • dntmkmecomovrther

          @George and AZDon:
          You two better do your homework on Mitwit the Romulan’s anti gun work in Massachusetts. The Romulan is not far from Obummer as far as the 2nd Amendment is concerned. You two seem to be lulled into a confused sense that the Romulan is conservative and a Contitutionalist; but his record clearly reflects that he is neither. So George, perhaps you should take some medication to come to your senses and then read what he Romulan is all about; it ain’t freedom…

          • Edward Shick

            If this no good Puppet gets his way the whole bill of rights and the Amendments are gone , Gerge Soros is looking after him now , but when George is done with him , He’s trash

          • Brian

            I agree that Romony is at very best a liberal conservative,and we all were that went last elections, we got obama. As far as The Second Amenment is concerned, I don’t think he has that much power to overturn the Amenment or the Constitution of the United States without overturning our form of government. His lost control of the House which for the next year makes any legal bid to overturn The Amenment void. If he tries to do it anyway, there would be a Civil War. The issues are what are we going to do about politicians who like obama weither conservative or liberal taking far to many liberties with their powers. Politicans are employeed by the People of this country. They really need to rethink their policies and act accordingly. We as the People of this country need to do our part and vote these people out of office while we still have the freedom to do so. If we don’t, you’ll soon have someone like obama or Romony telling you what to think.

        • azwayne

          We know what ODUMBO is about and too many naive don’t know Mitt is the same, different color makes no difference actions have been the same, and we expect different results???/

        • Kobra

          George… Romney has signed every bill that would limit gun rights that came accross his desk. If he becomes pres. then you better hope we have a strong hold on the House and Senate!!
          Alot of folks on both sides of this issue will die if that Dickheadtator gets reelected!!
          Once we’re defencless, nothing will stop any other country from invading America for the first time in history. Not to mention Food riots, Gang violence in your own front yard, neighbors killing each other over a few scraps of food to feed their family. Think it can’t happen in America? Think Again!!

        • Noah

          George “Mr Right” can go to bed but you need to wake up and pay attention to what is going on in the world. Snap out of it.

        • Bill

          If we, as individuals, continue to backbite each other, obama wins. Why not try to find issues we agree upon instead of letting a failed president continue to divide us. Name calling and anger will get us all slaves to a government which is, at this very moment, hoping, working and praying that our divisiveness will win for the bad guys. And by our constant bickering, nasty arguing, namecalling and miscommunication, we are all complicit should they succeed.

        • Mighty Moe

          There is no difference between obama & mitt

          • http://n/a ROBERT JONES

            BS, ONE IS A DUMB JUNGLE BUNNY

        • http://Yahoo Grizz

          Not many really trust Romney but that is no matter now, who ever we end up with as President I dont believe that we can trust our 2nd amendment to last, if you dont have a Gun now you had better dam well go and get one and all the ammo you can afford to buy because they are already after the ammo. You have no one else to blame but yourselves if your unprepared in the near future, very near future of the USA.

        • toosmarttovoteGOP

          I saw an article lying about Obama but didn’t see nuthin’ about no “muslim/commie”.

      • Norm Winne

        I just wanted to use that old worn out phrase… “my sentiments exactly”!!! Bring it on Mr. Obama!!!

        • michael

          Yea, lets see them try to take our millions of guns! Lets just see what happens.. We out number the Feds by millions to one.

          • Donna

            Yes, but our local law enforcement will march to obummer’s beat of the drum! If ICLEI is in your city…..think, for this is The UN Agenda plan! The obummer will do anything and all force possible to take down we the people!

            He is doing it now as the people allow this puppet to destroy every line of OUR CONSTITUTION!
            I wonder if he is going through the Amendments one by one to removing every last one freedoms we have!

            People wake up, the puppet dictator is taking our freedom from us.

          • http://CowboyByte Michael G.

            Michael, (good name), I just did a rather rough calculation (excluding the military of course) the ratio of us vs. them is around 120,000 to 1. Who do these people think they are? How many is it going to take going door to door? What are they going to run into? not to mention what they are gonna’ run into once the “word” gets out of what they are doing. They are living in a ‘dream-world.’ (And please for once, get that arrogant face off the internet!).

      • Norm Winne

        George got in between with his rediculous remark so I need to point out that I was referring to Mr Rights comment!!!

      • Dark_Archer

        ADOLPH HUSSEIN OBAMA IS AN ENEMY OF AMERICA

        MITT ROMNEY IS NOTHING BUT A LIBERAL …I’LL VOTE FOR THE LIBERAL OVER HITLER EVERY TIME

        • pilot

          Well “Dark Archer”. Y0u hit it pretty well on the head! I have been griping to anybody,- and everybody,- that for the last 20 years or so, there has not been a candidate that was worth voting for on either side! The old saying of let the best man win apparently is not included in politics! Because neither of the presidential candidates has been “worth a flip” – since Ronald Reagan! And I remember the Democrats howling about how “he was going to ruin the country”.
          how he was going to start a war with Russia, – (and start WWw3).. And yes a bunch or “liberal rinos” were involved in that “gloom and doom too”! No he didn’t do as much as I would have liked, but at least he left the country in better shape when he left, – (than when he came)! Now the way I see it , there are at present no “best”, – (or even accepable ones)! They have been assisinated by the competitors with the most money to spend! ….. So once again we are stuck with voting for the “lousy candidate” that (we hope) will do the least additional damage! it is sort of like having one foot cut off,– so you can “walk better”, – with no choice of not having any operation at all (MEDICARE??),- So you will lose one foot period, – which one do you want to go?– Remember both feet are still working OK right now!.. (But we have to remember the future– right)?… Sort of like picking betweeen the two guys in movie “Dumb & Dumber”!!
          So I am stuck at present with the candidate with an “identifiable birth certificate”, – and probably knows for who who his father is?? Also one who didn’t send someone to Hawii with verbal information to register a birth for there!! If it is Rommney that gets elected,—- then I guess we give up only about 1/2 of our constitution and bill of rights during his stay ,– instead of all of them (at once)….. What a great choice!! I have been voting in every election since I was legally able to vote… In those days we didn’t have Acorn to register us illegally for voting either, so we had to actually wait! I am now 72, and have only voted (or wanted to vote)for 3 “presidents that won”! The first election I voted in ,- my side lost!– That president had me within 24 hours of being in Guantanamo Bay Cuba – I had just been through basic tarining, and graduated from Tech School, in process of rotating to a remote “site in Alaska”! Later– finally one I voted for won, — and he got thrown out! Yes there were more than 3 Republicans who won, but several were also just the “least of the worst” type candidates! And I am more of an independent voter type, but knowing politics, I could vote for man of my choice, and lose 100% of the time,-(with all Democrat inspired presidents winning).. or vote for the Republican that would do the least damage (I hoped).. And nowdays you can’t actuallty tell the difference between most Democrats, and Republicans,– (they all act and vote the same way), these people appear to be “all politicians”, and somebody rich somewhere is doing all the work, and they in turn get all the breaks!! But in elections that are somewhere close, it makes a vote for independent — a vote (removed) in favor of Democrat running.. This way the independents actually help the more undesireable candidate win! The only good thing I can see in future is that I am going to die pretty soon, and I may not actually live to see the “Purging of undesireables”– by the adiministartion in charge (or actually “king of dictator”)! But I would actaully like to see a “free country” continue for my children and grand-children, and great- grand-children who are now here! …. Many of us tried,– but nobody listened, because they were looking for a “free ride”, and now it is time to start paying an exorbinent price,-(because all the oppositon has been stifled),– and the winners take the cake ! .. Well “nothing is free”, (and later has arrived), and the cake is going to taste lousy!– And you WILL be forecd to eat the cake (whether you want to or not), and the “undesireables” will be forced to drink “grape kool-aid” with it (probably) too! So you people who do not think or consider our “freedom heritage”,- better wake up and do a little thinking for a change, – because you will be riding that train to destruction (by force) too!

        • http://None George

          If the liberal Romney is elected, we will soon be in “nearly” the same circumstances we are in at present! The result would be like the “monkey” following the “gorrilla”!

      • Debra

        Three words for ovomit and his muslim loving commie followers, go fu k allah.

        • Mr. Right

          Deb,
          I love your comment but if I were your father I would wash your mouth out with soap!
          Just kidding!

        • Kobra

          Hey Raghead!!! I heard your alah fukd mohamud up the pooper!!!

        • Ltpar

          Debra, there is but one God for all people, even those with a dirty mouth. God is known by many names, but is still the creator of all. While you may not like Muslims, God created them just as he did you and I. To make such a comment as you did, is offensive to every person who believes in him. You should put your brain into action before your mouth in the future.

          • Windrinker

            Ltpar, you should “get a life.” Stop with the “self-righteous” baloney!

      • Sue

        Right on Mr. Right! They will never get my guns, other than in a manner they don’t want.
        Ovomit has no right to end any of our rights, and what he has tried already is going to cost him the election.

        • billie

          my hope is he looses all of his 57 states, I wonder how Dan Quayle would have fared with 57 potatoes?

      • http://bobk90.wordpress.com Bobby

        The NRA is in Bed with Obama! Don’t let the French Piece of Crap ‘Wayne LaPierre’ sell you a Bill of Goods! Remember this Sad Fact about France, the French have only WON one WAR, the French Revolution! If you Support the Second Amendment then support the NAGR, National Association of Gun Rights, they are the TRUE PRO-GUN Folks NOT the NRA!!!

        • Kobra

          Hey Bobby… Not only are you stupid you are an asshole!! The NRA has done more for GUNNERS in the Supreme Court and at the voting booth to protect YOUR Gun rights than any Mickey Mouse club org. on the Plenet!!

        • Bill

          Granted the NRA has made some grossly mistaken political moves, but it’s still the largest, most well funded and active pro-Second Amendment organization available to help us defend our gun rights. I belong to both the NRA (Life Member) and the NAGR. I’d strongly recommend everyone do the same. It’s far better to have as many active and trustworthy pro-gun organizations as we can than to depend on than just one. But here’s a point I also believe is important. If we, as individuals, continue to backbite each other, obama wins. Why not try to find issues we agree upon instead of letting a failed president continue to divide us. Name calling and anger will get us all to become slaves to a government which is, at this very moment, hoping, working and praying (well, maybe NOT praying) that our divisiveness will win for the bad guys. And by our constant bickering, nasty arguing, name-calling and miscommunication, we are all complicit should they succeed. And if we DON’T stop dividing ourselves, they will surely succeed.

      • http://www.paltalk.com/PatrioticConservativeAmericans Charles O McVey Sr SFC E7 USA Retired CO

        On June 8, 1789 James Madison delivered the Bill of Rights to the First Session of the First Congress. Regarding the right to keep and bear arms this was what he proposed: “The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed; A well Armed and well regulated Militia being the best security of a free Country, no person scruplus of bearing arms shall be compelled to report in person.” This ladies and gentleman is the Second Amendment as proposed by James Madison, the only changes to this Amendment as it went fourth to the First Session of the First Senate was that the part regarding those person scruplus of bearing arms. In the Senate the first clause (operative clause) was replaced by the the Militia clause as being first. However in the case of the the District of Columbia v Heller the United State Supreme Court held that the Operative Clause was and still is: “The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms Shall not be infringed.” For without this right there is no Militia, and Title 10 Unite States Code, Section 311, (b) states that: The unorganized Militia shall consist of all persons over the age of 17 and who are not members of the National Guard or Navel Militia.” Therefore the Militia does still exist and it is you and I.

      • Ltpar

        Mr. Right, the liberals have underestimated the American public in a number of areas since the Pied Piper of Chicago became president. If he is foolish enough to try and remove people’s guns from their homes, that will be his biggest mistake of all. It could well be the spark to start the war of the second revolution. Hopefully, this issue will be resolved at the ballot box in November, but if not then “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.”

      • http://Toyingwithguncontrol Stuart

        When they come for my gun they will have to beat me to death with an empty gun because all the ammo will have been used against them before they get to me.

      • Waist Gunner

        The Bravado sounds good but let me tell you when they’ve got your kids up against the wall and your wife’s crying her eyes out while the thugs are tearing up your house looking for your guns I seriously doubt your legs will even hold you up much less fight back. And That scene it repeated across the country in cities and in the country every day and there is NO ONE able to do a dam thing about it. We have only the illusion of freedom and won’t have that for much longer .

    • Bruce Garner

      This hasn’t been about freedom of speech or freedom of religion. You take public money (state or federal) and you cannot discriminate against people for whatever reason one might want to cloak in freedom of speech or religion. I am old enough to remember when the color of your skin determined whether or not you received the same treatment as a white person when it came to receiving anything from public money. There were different “rules” for different racial or ethnic groups.

      I do not want the government in my life either. I don’t want the government telling me what type of medical treatment I can get, who I can marry, or even with whom I can have sex. I will not have my personal freedoms abridged by someone, especially medical treatment providers, who want to impose their religious beliefs on me either. It is a narrow road to walk but that is what it needs to be.

      Each of us is free to express our religious beliefs as we see appropriate. However, we do not have the freedom to impose our beliefs on anyone else either privately or using public funds. That is really what the Constitution says.

      So if you are willing to bow to allowing folks to refuse to provide treatment because of religious or even political beliefs, the risk is yours to take. If you find yourself bleeding in a ditch somewhere and those who come to help object to treating you because of your religious beliefs or even political beliefs, you just end up sleeping in the bed you created.

      • comsense08

        Bruce, you have been litening to the wrong news media again. There is no religion out there trying to dictate anything. It’s the opposite. It’s the government, again, trying to tell a private business (this time Catholic hospitals) how they have to run their business. NO “religion” is withholding ANYTHING from you. Need to get the facts straight! If, for some reason, you don’t like the offerings of your local Catholic hospital, that’s fine, that’s your choice, there are other hospitals in your area. Leave private business alone. Let THEM determine how they will run their business. No government interference, no “public” interference, no “special interest” interference. You had better start protecting the rights of these businesses or they will soon be gone. Then what will you have left? Not much!

        • DefendConstitution

          comsense08, you are wrong. At least partially wrong. There is one ‘religion’ out there that does want to take over our lives and is making progress, one judge at a time. ISLAM.

          • Windrinker

            Defend, Commonsense was talking about “Religion” NOT about islam! If you consider islam a “religion” you have problems…. Use common sense.

            I don’t know of any religion that teaches their followers to kill, molest, and maim others and their own!

          • bugger

            Windrinker, I think you’ve been drinking a lot more than hot air. If you’re ignorant to what the Bible teaches, read this: http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/295-164/9926-christian-jihad . But of course, when do facts matter to fanatics?

          • DrSique

            Your tagline says it all!!! Americans do NOT need to take an oath to defend the Constitution. This writer may be correct about us going to our graves BUT it should not be knowing that “We The People” allowed the Bill of Rights to be dismantled. It should be defending it!!!! Over two hundred years ago, Benjamin Franklin challenged all Americans to hang on to the Republic which was given to us. Perhaps, these are also the times that try mens souls. The question is, How many Americans are truly willing to stand up to this wannabe tyrant with a Napoleon complex. It is a lot like the old Jewish saying about “by the time the Nazis came for me, there was noone left to speak out”. If Americans do not begin standing up for each others rights, they will all be gone soon. I want my country back!!!!

          • bobby nealey

            Winddrinker you just learned something because wheather I, you ,or anyone else like it, islam is considered a religion.

          • Windrinker

            Bugger….When you stop wanting to “bugger young boys” get back with me. I take it that is what you like about the laws of islam….

            It is a theocratic form of government, but how could I expect your ignorant self to know that…

          • Windrinker

            Add to my comment, as I am not finished with the theocracy of islam…

            The illegal alien belongs to islam, while he attacks Christian religions and denies any influence of Christianity on this Nation.

            The fact is that “islam is a theocratic form of government” that wants to replace our Republic !

            When our government allows a foreign government the status of “religion” that foreign government is exempt from being taxed. We should not be supporting another form of government and giving it the tax-exempt status of a religion.

            I don’t care what the foreigners call themselves, it is all a charade. We have our enemies living among us, and they are dedicated to seeing their flag fly over this Nation’s Capitol. Ask them, they will proudly tell you their theocracy will, “rule the world.” Since some people don’t take them seriously and perceive them as “legitimate” our country suffers. Our own government is not protecting our way of life, our sovereignty, our culture or our borders.. It is all part of the marxist mindset to destroy “Americanism.” You people can “play their game” if you want, but you risk your own security and that of everyone else.

        • Rick

          Obama and his minions are hypocrites; they want religion OUT of government, but they want government IN religion.

          • jeff

            exactly! you hit the nail on the head!!

          • http://CowboyByte Michael G.

            I was looking for a “reply” spot to get back to ‘bugger.’ Unfortunately, the web site doesn’t see fit to put one in in a good place, so this will have to do.
            First of all, at a glance, I think the author of the web site (noted) has an axe to grind. One has to, or at least should, ask who was this rather terrible command directed to? The Jews (Israelites); God used them to carry out His directive. Now, someone who is really mad at God would pose the underhanded slap at Him that the article puts forth. The second question needs to be asked: Why would a good and loving God put out such a command–to totally destroy the Canaanites? It had to do with what they were doing; they were sacrificing their children to their god (Malak) so they could have good crops. They made their little ones pass ‘through-the-fire’ (burned alive). How crude and cruel is that? Oh sure, God could have just said the word and gotten rid of the Canaanites, but that is not the way He chose to work.
            Perhaps He did things this way as an object lesson–You do the same, and I’ll see to it that you are destroyed as well.
            One big thing stands out in all this, and it is a passage from Scripture: “Revenge is mine,” sayith the Lord; “I will repay.” And He did…

        • azwayne

          Propaganda media is really quite successful, isn’t it?? Majority don’t even recognize as they cave to every little freedom taken.

      • rulken

        Bruce Garner; You are being ambiguous, I have read your post twice, I still don’t understand what your point is. I do not agree with your statement that this is to, “cloak in freedom of speech or religion”. To me, and millions of others, this is, an affront to freedom of religion! This IS, the reason there is separation of church and state! The State (federal government in this case) can’t tell the church what to do, as it’s religious practice dictates it’s own doctrine, any more that the church can tell the state what to do. :example, the church telling the state, ” you can no longer fund road construction.”
        This is a slippery slope, and once we let the government set a president it will be over, next they will tell us that we can’t buy cars that have more than four cylinders or more that two children, or even perhaps, that we need to let them raise our children in government camps after a certain age.
        Before you say that I’m exaggerating, there was a young, and popular voice that was very prominent in the 1930s in Germany, by the name of Hitler, who also believed in socialism, and communism, as does Obama!

        • Jr.

          Thanks a bunch for explaining to James the error of his ways.

        • bugger

          Exactly. The same argument used to justify Sharia Law.

        • Rich

          Rulken.

          AMEN brother.

        • kent

          hitler never believed in communism, he hated it. socialism was his bag, he and obumma have a lot in common.

          • Arthur

            I thought to remove an Amendment to the constitution that a 2/3 vote of Both Houses of congress or 2/3 of the population in an attempt to keep it had TO OCCUR ! In any event we do not just have someone remove something from the Constitution arbitrarily but by following the Rule of Law a problem Obama seems to have ! He needs to go by whatever means necessary and we that are legal gun owners need to keep the thugs and law breakers under control and help the police who appreciate those who have a CCWP and follow the law 1 We outnumber the naysayers and that is fact ! Join the NRA help in any way you can to defeAT OBAMA WITH DONATIONS AND GROUPS SUPPORTING REAL CANDIDATES WHO BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR !

          • Mr. Right

            Kent,
            You are misinformed my friend. Communism and Socialism are one and the same thing. Hitler was a FACIST. You know like a dictator or a king. Ovomit would love to follow in his foot prints.

      • OLD DAD

        Bruce you are just what obozzo needs in his corner, a moron that obviously doesn’t grasp the situation and will go with whatever he tells you is right.
        Please do us all a favor and don’t vote, You don’t havge the intellectual skill to pull the lever.

        • Sama

          This is about the president ‘appointing czars’ (non elected officials) and they make laws for ALL Americans to follow under penalty be it financial or business crushing.
          It is the job of Congress to make laws.
          End of story.
          All the anti-Catholic blathering has him laughing all the way to dictatorship. Its ice cream for him. A beautiful fall-out.

          • http://advocates-wvox.com rjgarfunkel

            Every president has appointed people outside of regular cabinet positions to work on specific tasks. This process goes back to Herman Kaiser during WWII. (And it is speculated that the term Czar came from Herman, who produced most of our Liberty Ships.

            In the United States, the informal political term “czar” or “tsar” is employed in media and popular usage to refer to high-level officials who oversee a particular policy. There have never been any U.S. government offices with the title “czar”, but various governmental officials have sometimes been referred to by the nickname “czar” rather than their actual title.

            The earliest known use of the term for a U.S. government official was in the administration of Franklin Roosevelt (1933–1945), during which eleven unique positions (or twelve if one were to count “Economic Czar” and “Economic Czar of World War II” as separate) were so described. The term was revived, mostly by the press, to describe officials in the Nixon and Ford administrations and continues today.

            The list is subjective and imprecise, since frequently individuals or offices might be referred to by the nickname “czar” by some publication or a political opponent, yet the actual governmental official, a majority of publications and others do not use the term. For example, some[who?] consider czars to be only those officials who are appointed by the president without Senate confirmation.
            President’s name Party In office Number of
            czar titles Number of
            appointees Appointees not
            confirmed by Senate
            Summary table – Number of czars per administration
            Franklin Roosevelt D 1933–1945 11 19 17
            Harry Truman D 1945–1953 6 6 5
            Dwight Eisenhower R 1953–1961 1 1 0
            Lyndon Johnson D 1963–1969 3 3 1
            Richard Nixon R 1969–1974 3 5 5
            Gerald Ford R 1974–1977 2 2 2
            Jimmy Carter D 1977–1981 2 3 2
            Ronald Reagan R 1981–1989 1 1 1
            George H. W. Bush R 1989–1993 2 3 0
            Bill Clinton D 1993–2001 8 11 7
            George W. Bush R 2001–2009 33 49 28
            Barack Obama D 2009– 38 42 33

            Now do you understand, clown!

        • David in MA

          And, the House & Senate continue to sit on their hands doing nothing,
          obozo is a danger to America, but congress, by law, has the authority to
          review everything he does and everything any department in government does,
          passes, makes as a rule or regulation and can either uphold it or negate it,
          but there is no such activy. Apparently, if America gets to vote in the 2012 elections,
          if they are held, there are many more to remove, from the House & Senate, along with obozo.
          There seems to be many of the new bunch that ran as supportive of the citizens
          movement known as The Tea Party and their desires in government, going along with the “oldtimers”.
          THIS brings the American voter to the point of deciding if they should vote out ALL
          politicians who are running for re-election, not just those in the “Good-old-boys (and girls) Club
          and obozo.

          Americans must realise that the upcoming elections are not just about getting rid of an undocumented
          illegal, Anti-American president, it is about the survival of the Nation.
          I fear that obozo is going to create, or have created, a situation where he will call for martial law and
          essentually “LOCK-DOWN” America and suspend elections, declaring himself,
          The Supreme One, the Mahdi.
          And at that point, America becomes an islamic socialist state.
          And, for those who say it can never happen, it can and will because you think it can’t,
          the thinking it cannot happen is the opeb door that will make it happen, that, is their secret weapon.

          • Donna

            I totally agree with you! If we the people sit back and not do something to remove this illegal dictator from office (Congress hasn’t done it), then we can expect to march to the radical rules of obummer.
            Although he is only a puppet to his powers that be; he will call in the militia and declare his dictatorship!
            The Constitution will have zero meaning and we have lost every freedom we think we have now!
            I wonder if a new Constitution has or is being written behind closed doors preparing for this big day when their puppet is declared the Dictator of what was once called the greatest country on earth!

            It is now up to We The People……to restore our country; not the Dems or the Repubs…they have failed us!

          • http://CowboyByte Michael G.

            Do you think we’ll just it there and take it? I don’t think so.

      • Jr.

        You have the freedom to take yourself down to another hospital who is mandated by the feds. It is exactly about yours and my freedoms. They are being erroded more each day.
        Also, if they deminish the influence of God in our everyday lives,then the 1st ten amendments which are endowed by our Creator to be inalienable rights are not protected anymore.If God doesnt exist,then the rights are changable.

      • EdinNola

        Regardless of how it may be spun, this is about the “in your face” destruction of the Constitution. The Catholic Church has been from time immemorial a principal source of charity, especially regarding the indigent and the ill. First amendment considerations aside, “How dare the incompetents in government interfere with religious belief and people / organizations who do GOOD for America?”.

        Again putting the first amandment aside, do any of you realize that we are talking about taxpayers paying for contraception and abortion? This is not HEALTH CARE. You could call it a lot of things, but one thing for sure, it’s not healthcare. Yes, there are times when the medical profession might provide the same products for a health related reason, but that is a miniscule portion of the sales of contraceptives. Provision of these products for use beyond a very specific area of treatment is not the purview of healthcare and taxpayers should not be forced to pay for such nonsense under any circumstances.

        The logical follow on to contraception is abortion, which is actually the aim of the so called “morning after pill”. This is abortion under a carefully contrived pseudonym, to make it sound like something it is not. Taxpayer paid abortion is illegal, and gee – what ever happened to that “executive order” that our king was supposed to issue, if his healthcare legislation was approved? Stop falling for this administration’s LIES. You (we) are being led down the phony road to a utopia that cannot exist. You’re being conned into giving up your freedom.

      • Terry

        I agree with your point about taking the Public’s Tax money, but must point out that USING the Public’s Tax money for murder of innocents (the unborn) is NOT a Constitutional function of US government. The founders would be abhorrant, as am I, to the federal government assisting, or in any way, taking part in such murders.

      • Bob

        Bruce, I to am old enough to remember when, but this has nothing to do with 60 years ago, it has to do with what you believe, in a country that was grounded on the fact, you want to tell a Christian that if their beliefs tells them something is wrong per Gods standards, well so what you have to do it anyway because the goverment says so. The reason we have the constitution is to insure our freedoms, so if the goverment comens in and says forget your rights you will do as I say, you can bet the people are going to stand with a stiff neck.

        As with the muslims, [nothing to do with you blog just on my mind] I feel that they have a right to the same freedoms we have but if their religion goes against our rules and the laws of the land, then they must comply, as their country requires, or return where they can live by their laws of religion. Otherwise welcome to America, be all you can be.

      • Ray Sarchet

        Dear Bruce
        Tell us the truth, did you or did you not VOTE for this Manchurian Candidate Hussein Obama?

      • Karl

        Bruce, I looked up “sheeple,” and they have your picture. Wise up before it’s too late.

      • http://tmarcum@yahoo.com Terry Marcum

        I’ve got to say it again! I can’t take it anymore! Save me Obi-Wan your my only hope!

      • Damnyankee

        Actually Bruce, the Founding Fathers stated we have God given rights endowed to us by our Creator – NOT the Gov’t – and these are contained in our Bill of Rights (which were actually carry overs from the colonial 1689 Bill of Rights that our ancestors enjoyed).

        In the last 100 years tho, our elected officials have been ignoring the Constitution because We the Sheeple haven’t a clue of what the Bill of Rights are or why they were written. Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, and Bill Clinton have all pissed on the 2nd Amendment. You should be alarmed that anti-gunner Nancy Pelosi doesn’t want firearms for her minions but she herself conceal carries her own pistol. At least in 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court finally weighed in and brought some sanity to what “keep and bear arms” means. This is why gun laws have been getting knocked down by dominoes.

        Where in the Bill of Rights does it say we have to buy permits from the Gov’t to buy a firearm? Where in the Bill of Rights does it say we have to pay for gun classes to get our permits so we can use our firearms?

        Newflash: the 2nd Amendment IS our permit. We have over 100 million gun owners in America who chose to exercise their God-given right to keep and bear arms. If the rest wants to be disarmed and helpless, then every day is a spin on the roulette wheel when they step out of their homes. I refuse to be a victim of a mugging, a robbery, a beating, or a number on the murder charts.

        “The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” – Samuel Adams

      • Bill

        I agree, sort of. I have no argument with anyone who wants to exercise their morals in a way with which I disagree. It is a personal choice for either males or females to cohabit. I personally disagree with behavior which is against my moral beliefs, and should not have to be required to provide those folks the methods they use to avoid the circumstances they create. That place THEIR responsibilities on MY head. Not only is destruction of human life in any form abhorrent to me, it is against the moral teachings of my religion. I should not have to condone other people’s sexual behavior by paying for it either in taxes I pay or insurance premiums I pay either. I say let those who want to sow their wild oats on Saturday night and then either pray for crop failure or pull their crops out of a womb do so. I take the unshakeable position that the U.S. government has neither the right nor the power to either EXPECT or REQUIRE me to condone it or pay for it, that’s all.

    • Elwood

      Greg F, regardless of any mistakes Mitt Romney has made, any character flaws he may have, any stains on his reputation, any baggage he may carry, I would still rather have him as President than the pretentious boy that currently sits in the White House.

      • Clod McGoo

        Elwood, you are right. I will support Newt right up to when the selection process is over but I will support whoever the GOP chooses. We MUST unite and get BO and his cronies out!!!

        • NancyM

          Elwood and Clod, I totally agree with both of you. I am not enthusiastic about any of the candidates being offered by the Republicans, but in the end, in the General Election, I WILL enthusiastically support whichever candidate the Republicans nominate because NONE of the them will be as bad as Obama, and ALL of them represent baby steps back in the right direction. With any of them, we will, of course, have to remain vigilant to prevent any slippage toward liberalism, but that first step is getting this disaster out of the White House! Frankly I’m getting a little tired of every discussion leading off with “This candidate is just like Obama”. There is NO candidate out there who is just like Obama! He must go!

          • Little John

            Linda, great big AMEN. I would like to give you big hug.

            There is strange feeling in me saying Ovomit will not step down if voted out of office. Holder and Odumber will call the election null and void and declare himself the winner. If we try to take back our country then Obummer will declare martial law. Odumder thinks he is only one who can rule this USA.

          • Dan

            Almost all of the Republican candidites are nearly as bad as Obummer. Electing one of them will just put off the tyranny for a little longer. But one stands heads and shoulders above the rest………………………… GO RON PAUL 2012

        • Ervin Harris

          A big – Amen!

          Mc Goo

          Snake

        • http://COWBOYBYTE SQUEAK

          Clod, Bravo, we agree !

    • Mayflower Decendant

      This administration is having Cass Sunstein re-write the whole Constitution! If we get him again for another 4 years then no one will even recognize this Country!

      • http://advocates-wvox.com rjgarfunkel

        You are deluded – the Sky has not fallen, Chicken Little and it will not fall. The flow of history cannot be stopped, and the extension of rights moves on, with you or with you. The Divine Right of Kings and prelates is long over. The country was founded by Deists who understood pluralism, even in the 18th Century. The Constitution allowed amendments and as time has moved on we have made good and bad ones. but for sure after you are dust the country will not evaporate.

        One of the many attacks on our country from the Religious Right is the claim that our country is a Christian Nation…not just that the majority of people are Christians, but that the country itself was founded by Christians, for Christians. However, a little research into American history will show that this statement is a lie. Those people who spread this lie are known as Christian Revisionists. They are attempting to rewrite history, in much the same way as holocaust deniers are. The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true. They were Freethinkers who relied on their reason, not their faith.
        If the U.S. was founded on the Christian religion, the Constitution would clearly say so–but it does not. Nowhere does the Constitution say: “The United States is a Christian Nation”, or anything even close to that. In fact, the words “Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, Creator, Divine, and God” are never mentioned in the Constitution– not even once. Nowhere in the Constitution is religion mentioned, except in exclusionary terms. When the Founders wrote the nation’s Constitution, they specified that “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.” (Article 6, section 3) This provision was radical in its day– giving equal citizenship to believers and non-believers alike. They wanted to ensure that no religion could make the claim of being the official, national religion, such as England had.

        The Declaration of Independence gives us important insight into the opinions of the Founding Fathers. Thomas Jefferson wrote that the power of the government is derived from the governed. Up until that time, it was claimed that kings ruled nations by the authority of God. The Declaration was a radical departure from the idea that the power to rule over other people comes from god. It was a letter from the Colonies to the English King, stating their intentions to seperate themselves. The Declaration is not a governing document. It mentions “Nature’s God” and “Divine Providence”– but as you will soon see, that’s the language of Deism, not Christianity.

        The 1796 Treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was “not in any sense founded on the Christian religion” . This was not an idle statement meant to satisfy muslims– they believed it and meant it. This treaty was written under the presidency of George Washington and signed under the presidency of John Adams.

        None of the Founding Fathers were atheists. Most of the Founders were Deists, which is to say they thought the universe had a creator, but that he does not concern himself with the daily lives of humans, and does not directly communicate with humans, either by revelation or by sacred books. They spoke often of God, (Nature’s God or the God of Nature), but this was not the God of the bible. They did not deny that there was a person called Jesus, and praised him for his benevolent teachings, but they flatly denied his divinity. Some people speculate that if Charles Darwin had lived a century earlier, the Founding Fathers would have had a basis for accepting naturalistic origins of life, and they would have been atheists. We’ll never know; but by reading their own writings, it’s clear that most of them were opposed to the bible, and the teachings of Christianity in particular.

        As to the 2nd Amendment, its meaning has been debated for decades and the NRA is only interested in the business of selling more and more guns. They used to represent hunters and fisherman, now they are a lobby for people who trade in AK-47s. The concept of people walking the streets with guns in their holsters went out with Dodge City, Tombstone and other cow towns along the Chisholm Trail. Even the town fathers in those days restricted guns in their town centers and bars.

        President Obama will win re-election, the country will not become a Muslim-Commie-Dictatorship and the Evangelical Money Machine, like the Chrystal Palace of the Reverend Shuler, and his clones, will still rake in zillions of dollars. Their lifestyle won’t be inhibited and the sheep that support them, will still be empty headed fools led to the economic slaughter.

        • Windrinker

          Fu-ker is absolutely insane!

          • http://advocates-wvox.com rjgarfunkel

            But not as stupid as you Windbreaker!

        • bugger

          Amen. But wow. I don’t know if most posters here can survive such a blast of Truth. I’m afraid Rigar, you have yanked away the platform they stand on. You have simply dropped a bomb on their party. Their only recourse, of course, will be to ignore, lie, and recite mindless diatribes. But they will never try to reason from the facts you present.

          • http://COWBOYBYTE SQUEAK

            Bugger, We are telling you we all need to let this windrinker { fits his name } know we are not taking his crap,….He is a liberal in disguise…we are on this page to work together & try to help save our country, which is close to being a dictatorship country, 4 more years of Obama & his Regime will complete his job…God Bless America !

          • Windrinker

            What is the matter Squeak! Trying to defend your fu-ker friend…..

            Move your tea bagger self (we know how you boys like to have fun with yourselves) back to the Huffpost with the other libturds!

          • http://Toyingwithguncontrol Stuart

            bugger (the act of anal sex) and funker are both deluded. Maybe bugger is funkers love object?

          • http://COWBOYBYTE SQUEAK

            This is for Windrinker….. love your lying comments & foul mouth…that goes to show what kind of a Moron you really are… I am a true Republican, conservative for your information & NEVER had anything to do with the Huffington post..unlike you, I do not associate with anyone that are liberal socialist people such as the Huffington Post..get your facts straight for a change !

          • Windrinker

            Squeaky, don’t call me a “liberal in disquise” and expect to get away with it!
            So stop with the “self-righteous” crap!

            (Still think I am a liberal, you haven’t read any of my posts.)

          • Windrinker

            Stuart, my point exactly. Bugger chose his own “handle” and I assume he knows what fits! LOL

        • http://www.wallbuilders.com/ beaner

          rigarfunkel. You are clearly an intelligent and articulate man who likely leans to the left. Your bias comes through and that’s OK. We are all guilty of that. If you are interested in expanding your knowledge, I would recommend spending some time on David Bartons’ website. What I appreciate most about him is the consistent reference to actual documents written by our founding fathers, not revsionist history written by someone else 200 years later.

          http://www.wallbuilders.com/

          • http://COWBOYBYTE SQUEAK

            Windrinker..then you need to practice what you preach..to insinuate someone is gay { mild terms from what stuart, bugger & you are saying, nothing but filth } is far from the truth so you all should watch what you say of someone, you may have put your foot in your big mouth..there is such a thing as “SLANDER”…I for one am NOT a fagot ,gay or know any of you retards so I would watch what you say about someone…What would you say if we told you I am an elderly woman & happily married…Would that shock you & your know it all filthy mouth.. You are a know it all Moron but I have the last laugh !!!

          • http://advocates-wvox.com rjgarfunkel

            There is nothing wrong with a vital two-party system. I consider myself a centrist, value-oriented, Democrat, who believes in God, has been a hard-working capitalist for 45 years until retirement and part of a family that have been business owners and professionals for 4 generations in America, dating from the 1880’s. My children have Ivy league educations are gainfully employed, as does my wife, and I host a non-partisan public policy radio show. In fact, this Wednesday I will be interviewing Dr. David Barker, author of “Welcome to free America,” a libertarian’s view of America. He was a former economist for the Federal Reserve and has a PhD in Economics from the University of Chicago.

            I peruse these sites and its clones weekly to see how extreme some Americans have become. There is nothing so important as political debate. There are important issues regarding, debt, tolerance, foreign policy, deficit spending, civil rights and liberties, equal access to opportunity, fair taxation, separation of church and state, the death penalty, the use of drugs, Choice, birth control and equal justice under the law.

            But, on these sites, coherent opinion is wanting. What I hear is revolution, bigotry, hatred, name-calling, the distortion of the facts, threats and slander. The name-calling of the President is a disgrace and anti-American. I have provided facts on the following:

            The housing bubble
            Job creation by president
            Recess appointments
            Czar appointees
            Deism’s American history
            Inflation & recessions
            Market performance
            statistics on gun deaths
            and a slew of other facts

            Do you think that 1% of the troglodytes, who represent some of the most vicious parts of the lunatic fringe, on this site are interested in facts? To them the election is rigged, it will never happen, Obama’s a commie Muslim, Manchurian candidate, you are stupid, a lunatic, go back to Russia, and these are their rational answers. I find it interesting sport and I like President Truman will give them the facts and they’ll think it is hell. Well folks the moon is not made of Green Cheese, Area 51 doesn’t have little green men in jars and Nostradamus was not clairvoyant.

            How does one destroy the Middle Class in 3 years? As I recall when Obama came into office, the jobs were bleeding at 700K per month. In fact they bled months into 2009 when the Stimulus was passed by the Congress and money was given to the states for distribution for shove ready jobs, jobs already stalled, teachers, police officers firefighters and all sorts of people who do the necessary work that we all need and appreciate. As far as I know, and most would agree with, jobs have been being exported by American Big Business for decades. In the last 27 years since Reagan, only Clinton created jobs of any discernible amount (23 million).
            The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton‘s administration and only slightly better than President George H.W. Bush did in his four years in office.
            Wall Street Journal
            http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/
            Jobs created:
            GW Bush 3.0 million
            Clinton 23.1
            GHW Bush 2.5
            Reagan 16.0
            Carter 10.5
            Ford 1.6
            Nixon 9.4
            LBJ 11.9
            JFK 3.6
            Eisenhower 3.5
            Truman 8.4

            For all you doubters, Democrats have created far more jobs than the GOP.
            On a year by year basis- Clinton, Carter, Reagan, LBJ, Truman, Nixon and JFK lead Ford, Bush I and II and Eisenhower by a wide margin. In 28 years the Democrats created 57 million jobs to the GOP’s 36 million in 36 years. Those are the facts. Look it up from the WSJ. By the way, the Stock Market has performed much better under Democrats since Truman, (aside from the Hoover disaster and the FDR success. One day after FDR’s first Inaugural the Stock market rallied 15%. That never happened before or since!)

        • Phillip in TX

          There is no “debate” to the 2nd Amendment. It means what the “Founding Father’s” said it means. It it plain and simple.

          “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

          “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.”
          — George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
          Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

          The militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves, … all men capable of bearing arms;…”
          — “Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic”, 1788 (either Richard Henry Lee or Melancton Smith).

          “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American … The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People.”
          — Tench Coxe, 1788.

          Keep your powder dry!

          • bugger

            As passed by the Congress:

            A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

            As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:

            A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

          • http://advocates-wvox.com rjgarfunkel

            Tell that to the US Supreme Court which, over the years has allowed the ban of all sorts of mass murder weapons!

        • Barbara

          I like and agree with what you write; however, if you dig deeper into the founding fathers’ writings, you will find that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and others, had a profound belief in Christianity, and mentioned their faith in their writings. We have been taught that they were mostly deists – not so. Christian services were held in the Capitol, the Congress published the first American Bible, and so forth. Easily verified.

          Another thought – we all have the right to have clean teeth….. Should the government provide each of us with free toothpaste, toilet paper, soap to be clean, clean hair, etc. Where does this end.

          Regarding marriage between men and women and others: If you believe that nature provided for us to reproduce, what is required? Men and women together, or women and women together, or men and men together, or man and animal. I wish the best for same sex unions, but please, why not a civil contract, or civil union contract – why take the word “marriage” that the Churchs instituted – union or a contract can be just as forcible – just don’t call the union a “marriage”, please.

        • czman

          Where did you grow up? You are the one with the wrong information. The Founders didn’t
          believe in the Bible? You need to restudy your history, this Country was founded on Judeo -Christian beliefs and that is the fact. That’s your new public schools for ya!

          • Windrinker

            CZ, careful! “The bugger man” will get you. He is defending the fu-ker!

        • donald

          Aha! Garfunkel has come out from under his rock again to add sick humor, distortions and half-truths to the conversation! Don’t take him too seriously, folks. The mental institution is trying hard to get him back!

        • RHSchumann

          You are correct! Most of the Founbding Fathers wefre products of the Age of Enlightenment, the Age of Reason. Both seem to be completely absent in those who are now claiming to follow their lead.

        • http://tmarcum@yahoo.com Terry Marcum

          My Ak is loaded Rigar! Come and get it!

          • Windrinker

            No doubt that “the fu-ker” better not spout that crazy talk around the good-ole Texans! They will pound his skinny, tea bagging ass in the ground!

        • dntmkmecomovrther

          @RGarfukkel: Your disillusion rant is the most antihistoric I have read yet. Congratulations on flunking basic Early American History…bonehead.

        • Padremike

          Most of the Founders WERE NOT Deist. Chip it in stone.

        • A.B.

          Where have you been living the past three and a half years, under a rock? The delusion is in you, not the rest of us. No other president has overstepped his authority like BO. And others have done this too, just not as bad. It would not matter what else he did, his arrogance is enough to convince me and others that he is stacking the deck.

          As for our founding fathers, they did acknowledge the “correct God”. Splitting hairs about which God they are addressing is pointless exercise available only to those whose words are spoken within the safe confines of a nation where speech of all kinds is protected. In only a decade we have seen our lawmakers go from passive to aggressive in removing our basic freedoms, in the cause of “security”. It is not just the present occupier of the WH that has done it, either.

          The parallels of this administration with the pre-Hitler Germany are spooky. Too much for me to discount them. The fact that O is protected by so many in our government and media frightens me, even if he were a conservative. So, while you sit back in your easy chair to cluck your tongue at us, remember, whatever country we end up with, you will too.

          • http://advocates-wvox.com rjgarfunkel

            Speaking of history. The Founding Fathers were afraid of organized religion, religious zealots and the type of communities that were founded by both the Puritans and the Pilgrims. In fact, our great heroes of that era were Roger Williams and Anne Hutchinson who ran away from the zealots and stood up for Freedom of Speech and Religion.

            In a later and more dangerous era it was our greatest president of the 20th Century, Franklin Delano Roosevelt who authored the 4 Freedoms. Also, please note that Ronald Reagan voted for him 4 times. FDR also put for the his 2nd Bill of Rights, along with the GI Bill, which educated millions of soldiers and made this country in the post WWII era.

            The Four Freedoms were goals articulated by President Franklin D. Roosevelt on January 6, 1941. In an address known as the Four Freedoms speech (technically the 1941 State of the Union address), he proposed four fundamental freedoms that people “everywhere in the world” ought to enjoy:

            Freedom of speech and expression
            Freedom of worship
            Freedom from want
            Freedom from fear

            The Second Bill of Rights was a list of rights proposed by Franklin D. Roosevelt, the then President of the United States, during his State of the Union Address on January 11, 1944. In his address Roosevelt suggested that the nation had come to recognize, and should now implement, a second “bill of rights”. Roosevelt’s argument was that the “political rights” guaranteed by the constitution and the Bill of Rights had “proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.” Roosevelt’s remedy was to declare an “economic bill of rights” which would guarantee:

            Employment, with a living wage,
            Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies,
            Housing,
            Medical care,
            Education, and,
            Social security

            I support FDR’s ideals, they certainly are in the best interest of all Americans and they are concepts that we should all work to achieve,

            As to the Founding Fathers and their view of Christianity, please do not ignore:

            Who were the Founding Fathers? American historian Richard B. Morris, in his 1973 book Seven Who Shaped Our Destiny: The Founding Fathers as Revolutionaries, identified the following seven figures as the “key” Founding Fathers: John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, James Madison and George Washington.
            Of these, only John Jay can be considered an orthodox Christian. As Congress’s Secretary for Foreign Affairs, he argued (unsuccessfully) for a prohibition forbidding Catholics from holding office. On October 12, 1816, Jay wrote, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest, of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” It is John Jay that the modern Christians have in mind when they talk about the Founding Fathers. Luckily for the rest of us, and all freedom-loving Americans, he was not in the majority. “As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?” -letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816
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            “I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved– the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!”
            -letter to Thomas Jefferson

            “The priesthood have, in all ancient nations, nearly monopolized learning. And ever since the Reformation, when or where has existed a Protestant or dissenting sect who would tolerate A FREE INQUIRY? The blackest billingsgate, the most ungentlemanly insolence, the most yahooish brutality, is patiently endured, countenanced, propagated, and applauded. But touch a solemn truth in collision with a dogma of a sect, though capable of the clearest proof, and you will find you have disturbed a nest, and the hornets will swarm about your eyes and hand, and fly into your face and eyes.”
            – letter to John Taylor
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            “The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.”

            “The question before the human race is, whether the God of Nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?”

            “God is an essence that we know nothing of. Until this awful blasphemy is got rid of, there will never be any liberal science in the world.”

            “Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1,500 years?” “This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.”

            Thomas Jefferson did not believe in the Trinity, and he said so:

            “The hocus-pocus phantasm of a God like another Cerberus, with one body and three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands and thousands of martyrs.” — Letter to James Smith, December 8, 1822

            “It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they believe in the Platonic mysticisms that three are one, and one is three; and yet the one is not three, and the three are not one: to divide mankind by a single letter into ["consubstantialists and like-substantialists"]. But this constitutes the craft, the power and the profit of the priests. Sweep away their gossamer fabrics of factitious religion, and they would catch no more flies. We should all then, like the quakers, live without an order of priests, moralise for ourselves, follow the oracle of conscience, and say nothing about what no man can understand, nor therefore believe; for I suppose belief to be the assent of the mind to an intelligible proposition.” — Jefferson’s Letter to John Adams, August 22, 1813

            (John Adams’ reply to this letter shows that he did not believe in the Trinity either): “The human understanding is a revelation from its maker, which can never be disputed or doubted. There can be no scepticism, Pyrrhonism, or incredulity or infidelity here. No prophecies, no miracles are necessary to prove this celestical communication. This revelation has made it certain that two and one make three, and that one is not three nor can three be one. We can never be so certain of any prophecy, or the fulfilment of any prophecy, or of any miracle, or the design of any miracle, as we are from the revelation of nature, that is, nature’s God, that two and two are equal to four.” –Adam’s Letter to Thomas Jefferson, 14 September 1813

            Thomas Jefferson did not believe in the virgin birth of Jesus, and he said so:
            “And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors.” — Jefferson’s letter to John Adams, April 11 1823

            Jefferson was a rationalist. He believed that Jesus was a pure and ethical teacher of morals. To that end, Jefferson took a razor to the New Testament and removed passages he thought to have been inserted by the authors of the gospels (whom he called the “commentators”), and he pasted what remained together as “The Jefferson Bible”. With his razor blade, he removed every verse dealing with the virgin birth, miracles, resurrection, claims of Jesus’ divinity and other puerile superstition, thus leaving us with a very much shorter book. In 1904, the Jefferson Bible was printed by order of Congress, and for many years was presented to all newly elected members of that body.

            “No one sees with greater pleasure than myself the progress of reason in its advances towards rational Christianity. When we shall have done away the incomprehensible jargon of the Trinitarian arithmetic, that three are one, and one is three; when we shall have knocked down the artificial scaffolding, raised to mask from view the simple structure of Jesus; when, in short, we shall have unlearned everything which has been taught since His day, and get back to the pure and simple doctrines He inculcated, we shall then be truly and worthily His disciples; and my opinion is that if nothing had ever been added to what flowed purely from His lips, the whole world would at this day have been Christian. I know that the case you cite, of Dr. Drake, has been a common one. The religion-builders have so distorted and deformed the doctrines of Jesus, so muffled them in mysticisms, fancies and falsehoods, have caricatured them into forms so monstrous and inconceivable, as to shock reasonable thinkers, to revolt them against the whole, and drive them rashly to pronounce its Founder an imposter. Had there never been a commentator, there never would have been an infidel.” — Jefferson’s Letter to Timothy Pickering, 21 Feb 1821

            “The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man.
            1. That there is one only God, and he all perfect.
            2. That there is a future state of rewards and punishments.
            3. That to love God with all thy heart and thy neighbor as thyself, is the sum of religion.
            These are the great points on which he endeavored to reform the religion of the Jews. But compare with these the demoralizing dogmas of Calvin:
            1. That there are three Gods.
            2. That good works, or love of our neighbor, are nothing.
            3. That faith is every thing, and the more incomprehensible the proposition, the more merit in the faith.
            4. That reason in religion is of unlawful use.
            5. That God, from the beginning, elected certain individuals to be saved, and certain others to be damned; and that no crimes of the former can damn them; no virtues of the latter save.

            Now, which of these is the true and charitable Christian? He who believes and acts on the simple doctrines of Jesus? Or the impious dogmatists, as Athanasius and Calvin? Verily I say these are the false shepherds fortold as to enter not by the door into the sheepfold, but to climb up some way. They are mere usurpers of the Christian name, teaching a counter-religion made up of the deliria of crazy imaginations, as foreign from Christianity as is that of Mohomet. Their blasphemies have driven thinking men into infidelity, who have too hastily rejected the supposed author himself, with the horrors so falsely imputed to him. Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as pure as they came from his lips, the whole civilized world would now have been Christian. I rejoice that in this blessed country of free inquiry and belief, which has surrendered its creed and conscience to neither kings nor priests, the genuine doctrine of one only God is reviving, and I trust that there is not a young man now living in the United States who will not die an Unitarian.” –Jefferson’s letter to Dr. Benjamin Waterhouse, June 26 1822

            Jefferson was called an ATHEIST by Christian ministers of his day, who tried to block his presidency! How can Christians claim him now as one of them, now that he’s dead?!
            http://www.newwest.net/city/article/thomas_jefferson_atheist_and_leveler_from_virginia/C108/L108/

            “As to the calumny of Atheism, I am so broken to calumnies of every kind, from every department of government, Executive, Legislative, and Judiciary, and from every minion of theirs holding office or seeking it, that I entirely disregard it, and from Chace it will have less effect than from any other man in the United States. It has been so impossible to contradict all their lies, that I have determined to contradict none; for while I should be engaged with one, they would publish twenty new ones.” — Jefferson’s Letter to James Monroe, May 26, 1800

            The most famous ‘out of context’ religious quote of Thomas Jefferson is to be found in the Jefferson Memorial in Washington D.C. Around the rotunda of the Jefferson Memorial, in large gold letters, is the quote: “I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD, ETERNAL HOSTILITY AGAINST EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN.” The quote was taken, completely out of context from a letter that Jefferson wrote to Dr. Benjamin Rush September 23, 1800. The quote put in its original context says just the opposite of the pious sentiment it is made to say. In his letter to Dr. Rush Jefferson is talking about the Christian clergy who were working against his being elected President by saying Jefferson was an infidel. The complete quote says: “The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their (the Christian clergy) hopes, and they believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” So we see that in his letter Jefferson is saying that the “tyranny over the mind of man” that he is opposed to are the schemes of the Christian clergy, and the god he is referring to is the god of Deism, not the god of the Christians.

            “If by religion we are to understand sectarian dogmas, in which no two of them agree, then your exclamation on that hypothesis is just, “that this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.” But if the moral precepts, innate in man, and made a part of his physical constitution, as necessary for a social being, if the sublime doctrines of philanthropism and deism taught us by Jesus of Nazareth, in which all agree, constitute true religion, then, without it, this would be, as you again say, “something not fit to be named even, indeed, a hell.” — Letter from Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, May 5, 1817

            Thomas Jefferson did not believe that Jesus was God, and he said so:
            “The office of reformer of the superstitions of a nation is ever dangerous. Jesus had to walk on the perilous confines of reason and religion; and a step to right or left might place Him within the grasp of the priests of the superstition, a bloodthirsty race, as cruel and remorseless as the Being whom they represented as the family God of Abraham, of Isaac and of Jacob, and the local God of Israel. They were constantly laying snares, too, to entangle Him in the web of the law. He was justifiable, therefore, in avoiding these by evasions, by sophisms, by misconstructions and misapplications of scraps of the prophets, and in defending Himself with these their own weapons, as sufficient, ad homines, at least. That Jesus did not mean to impose Himself on mankind as the Son of God, physically speaking, I have been convinced by the writings of men more learned than myself in the lore.” — Thomas Jefferson’s letter to William Short, August 4, 1820

            To claim that Jefferson was a Christian is outright dishonest. He was a MATERIALIST, and he said so:
            “But while this syllabus is meant to place the character of Jesus in its true light, as no imposter himself, but a great reformer of the Hebrew code of religion, it is not to be understood that I am with him in all his doctrines. I am a materialist; he takes the side of spiritualism; he preaches the efficacy of repentance towards forgiveness of sin; I require a counterpoise of good works to redeem it.” — letter to William Short, April 13, 1820; Definition of a Materialist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism

            “In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot … they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purpose.” – to Horatio Spafford, March 17, 1814

            “Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.” – “Notes on Virginia”
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            “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose.” – to Baron von Humboldt, 1813
            .
            “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose.” – to Baron von Humboldt, 1813
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            “Difference of opinion is advantageous in religion. The several sects perform the office of a common censor over each other. Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.” –Notes on Virginia.

            “Creeds have been the bane of the Christian church … made of Christendom a slaughter-house.” – to Benjamin Waterhouse, Jun. 26, 1822

            “I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology.”

            “We discover in the gospels a groundwork of vulgar ignorance, of things impossible, of superstition, fanaticism and fabrication .”

            “No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever.” -Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
            .
            “The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. .
            .
            “Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the Common Law.” -letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, 1814

            “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot…. they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purpose.” – to Horatio Spafford, March 17, 1814
            .
            “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.”
            -letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT “The Complete Jefferson” by Saul K. Padover, pp 518-519
            George Washington

            The father of this country was very private about his beliefs, but it is widely considered that he was a Deist like his colleagues. He was a Freemason. Historian Barry Schwartz writes: “George Washington’s practice of Christianity was limited and superficial because he was not himself a Christian… He repeatedly declined the church’s sacraments. Never did he take communion, and when his wife, Martha, did, he waited for her outside the sanctuary… Even on his deathbed, Washington asked for no ritual, uttered no prayer to Christ, and expressed no wish to be attended by His representative.” [New York Press, 1987, pp. 174-175]
            Paul F. Boller states in is anthology on Washington: “There is no mention of Jesus Christ anywhere in his extensive correspondence.” [Dallas: Southern Methodist University Press, 1963, pp. 14-15]
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            “Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by the difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be depreciated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”
            – letter to Edward Newenham, 1792
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            “Gouverneur Morris had often told me that General Washington believed no more of that system (Christianity) than did he himself.” -Thomas Jefferson, in his private journal, Feb. 1800

            “I think vital religion has always suffered when orthodoxy is more regarded than virtue. The scriptures assure me that at the last day we shall not be examined on what we thought but what we did.”
            – letter to his father, 1738

            Benjamin Franklin
            “. . . Some books against Deism fell into my hands. . . It happened that they wrought an effect on my quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough Deist.”

            “I cannot conceive otherwise than that He, the Infinite Father, expects or requires no worship or praise from us, but that He is even infinitely above it.”
            – “Articles of Belief and Acts of Religion”, 1728

            “I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works … I mean real good works … not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing … or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity.” – Works, Vol. VII, p. 75

            “If we look back into history for the character of the present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practiced it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England blamed persecution in the Romish Church, but practiced it upon the Puritans. They found it wrong in Bishops, but fell into the practice themselves both here (England) and in New England.” .

            “Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.” -in Poor Richard’s Almanac

            “The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.” -in Poor Richard’s Almanac

            “When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself so that its professors are obliged to call for the help of the civil power, ’tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.” .

            “I looked around for God’s judgments, but saw no signs of them.” .

            “In the affairs of the world, men are saved not by faith, but by the lack of it.”

            “It is much to be lamented that a man of Franklin’s general good character and great influence should have been an unbeliever in Christianity, and also have done as much as he did to make others unbelievers” (Priestley’s Autobiography)
            “Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.”
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            Thomas Paine
            “Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half of the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind. .

            “What is it the New Testament teaches us? To believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married; and the belief of this debauchery is called faith.”

            “Take away from Genesis the belief that Moses was the author, on which only the strange belief that it is the word of God has stood, and there remains nothing of Genesis but an anonymous book of stories, fables, and traditionary or invented absurdities, or of downright lies.”

            “We do not admit the authority of the church with respect to its pretended infallibility, its manufactured miracles, its setting itself up to forgive sins. It was by propagating that belief and supporting it with fire that she kept up her temporal power.”

            “I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.”

            “The story of Jesus Christ appearing after he was dead is the story of an apparition, such as timid imaginations can always create in vision, and credulity believe. Stories of this kind had been told of the assassination of Julius Caesar.”

            “All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.” .

            “The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion.” At times religious wording was written into Lincoln’s speeches, but such public soothes were brought at the insistence of White House staff members. In 1843, after he lost a campaign for Congress, he wrote to his supporters: “It was everywhere contended that no Christian ought to vote for me because I belonged to no church, and was suspected of being a Deist.”

            When Lincoln was first considered for the presidential nomination, Logan Hay wrote to his nephew, the future Secretary of State John Hay: “Candor compels me to say that Mr. Lincoln could hardly be termed a devout believer in the authenticity of the Bible (but this is for your ears only).” Interviewer Opie Read once asked Lincoln about his conception of God, to which he replied: “The same as my conception of nature.” When he was asked what he meant by that, he said: “That it is impossible for either to be personal.” His former law partner, William Herndon, said of him after his assassination: “[Mr. Lincoln] never mentioned the name of Jesus, except to scorn and detest the idea of a miraculous conception. He did write a little work on infidelity in 1835-6, and never recanted. He was an out-and-out infidel, and about that there is no mistake.” He also said that Lincoln “assimilated into his own being” the heretical book Age of Reason by Thomas Paine.
            Lincoln’s first law partner, John T. Stuart, said of him: “He was an avowed and open infidel, and sometimes bordered on atheism. He went further against Christian beliefs and doctrines and principles than any man I have ever heard.”
            Supreme Court Justice David Davis: “He [Lincoln] had no faith, in the Christian sense of the term– he had faith in laws, principles, causes and effects.”
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            “The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession.”
            -Spoken by Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Joseph Lewis

            Those are the words of our Founding Fathers and some of our greatest citizens. I am not an atheist, I believe in God and I support my religious institution in many ways, including where it counts emotional and monetary support.

            The hatred and the banal arguments posed here mean NOTHING! They reflect an anti-American bias, a denial of truth and a distortion of history. Opinion here is more reflective of our decline than the specious arguments promoted here against the “open mind.” You folks are not supporters of Christianity any more than the suicide bomber is a supporter of Islam. As crazy and insane as they are, some of you folks are on the same parallel. Thankfully, your views were marginalized generations ago and you folks are just the vestiges of the of those discredited ideas that once in a while are pulled in by the tide.

        • shawn corrigan

          thankyou for the info about our history , however i believe those who accept the constitution as it is have the right to to fight to keep it as it is. those who want to change it should leave or be quiet. this shows respect for those who are here because they accept the guiding document of this land. the right to have a weapon in the event protection is needed is clearly written. anyone who tries to change that is destroying the rights of other people to defend themselves.
          this is a horrible crime. to take what others fought for ,died for and hold dear, the ability to defend themselves and those they love from enemies is an evil act. i believe this is something many will fight for again , and would be willing to die for. if your a communist ,socialist ,totalitarianist . rather that trying to control manipulate extort and rule others , why dont you leave this country , and find yourself a nice communistic country elsewhere, there are hundreds of tyrannical control freak places that you will love, and get the *&*%*&%&*() out of our country !!

        • http://i niles

          I warned you about smoking that stuff. Now you have gone and done it. Killed your last brain cell.
          You are a faithful solider guarding the Obama palace. …OEO-OEO-O

        • Patrick Henry

          Hey folks, Rjgarfunkle is a socialist troll and by the way garfunkle, since you believe the 2nd. amendment is outdated and about hunting, what other of our 10 Bill of Rights are you ready to give up next? The 2nd. amendment hasn’t anything to do with hunting, it was to protect ourselves from a powerful Federal Government, and anyone else.

          • http://advocates-wvox.com rjgarfunkel

            I know that you have trouble reading, so I’ll spell it out, the NRA h-a-s n-o-t-h-i-n-g to do with the Bill of Rights or its erosion. I said that the NRA was organized to support hunting and fishing rights and now is a lobby for gun manufacturers and is concerned with their sales. They have that right to serve their clients, but the 2nd Amendment is for both the people as a whole and for the Supreme Court to reflect on. Why do clods like you extrapolate such nonsense. I know that your gun is an extension of your member, but its time to start dating and leave your “gat” behind.

            I know you conspiratorial gurus are armed and ready to protect America from an insurrection or invasion from Cuba, but relax its not happening and you can go back to hunting Big Foot in the hills somewhere. Don’t you realize that most sane folks feel you are certifiable. What compounds their fears are that you have a gun and that most serial killers and people who shoot up schools and post offices are like you and yours!

        • http://i niles

          OEO_OEO_O OEO_OEO_O

        • http://i niles

          You have to stop coping and pasting from the socialist liberal manual. Put your pipe down. Allow your head to clear and come up with something original. Never mind, I’m sorry. Should never ask the impossible. OEO-OEO-O Wouldn’t want you to get out of step.

      • Pamela Harper

        Mayflower Decendant, I’m wondering, just as many others are, where in the world is congress!? The members of congress swore to uphold the constitution, did they not? Then why in hell are they allowing O to trample our rights? Do you suppose that O & Eric have a wall in the back yard of the WH where they have threatened to line them all up to be shot by the fast & furious weapons?! I’m sure they wouldn’t have any trouble finding enough illegals to put on the firing end of the gun. Wake up America!!!!!!!!!! We need to get all of these loons out of Washington.

      • Jim

        You are dead on the money !!! Commiebama’s goal is to destroy this country and make it a communist country just as it was his father’s goal / dream to make Kenya a communist country. Luckily he failed. WE NEED to make sure commiebama fails like wise. And Hitler was not a communist, he hated the commies big time. But in the end there is no difference between a commie and a faciast. They both take away all freedoms and “force” us to do what they want or you die.

    • George

      Yes ;he has done some things in life, he regrets ; haven ‘t you .

    • Lily55

      If you say so, then he did. I believe you. HOWEVER, he was under the thumbs of a LIBERAL Legislator, and what he said didn’t go over well. Don’t blame the messenger here. He doesn’t have my vote, unless he’s our Republican Nominee, then heck ya///ANYONE in the GOP to replace a liar, thief, but mainly one who thinks his word is TRUTH, moral, and JUSTICE FOR ALL. If you voted for him in ’08 to prove you aren’t a racist, vote for a different candidate in ’12 to prove you really aren’t stupid. He WILL BE the down fall of AMERICA, THE BEAUTIFUL, strongest Nation on earth. Turkey is 2nd next to the USA. Wear your seat belt my friends. God never promised us a rose garden. If Obama stays in, sorry..we’re doomed to become a 3rd world Nation, but not him and his cronies. They have all the water they need, seeds to plant, and that {so they say} sickening beef product and eggs to keep them alive. This is a much slower version of Hitler Nazism. He warned us in his speeches leading up to him becoming our President, but with thrills running up the liberal legs, our soap box was sprayed each day, little by little, “WHO DO WE THINK WE ARE??” This SOB warned us, how our electric bill would necessary skyrocke…REMEMBER? No job, no income, what do I do? Eat, {I only weight 155 at 5’7″} pay my insurance on my paid in full home, pay my car insurance, Durango paid in full. Screw the vehicle. If I lose my house..well, there goes my life. Any white, single, mid 50’s men out there wishing to care for a loving woman, in marriage only? Yes I pack, and hell ya, U come after me, I’ll shoot ya dead..LOL. Or my SF son will. Who the F can make it on their own any more????????

    • nellie

      Greg F…. your blog certainly makes me realize I need to look more into his history as governor. I have checked out Bain. But there seems to be a lot more work to do.

    • bevad

      WTF are you smoking man? The topic is Obama erasing the 2nd amendment and you, as the first post, start out with health care issues and bad mouthing Romney. He is not going to limit the second amendment in the least bit! He is NOT a socialist!

      • bugger

        No bevad, it’s not about Obama erasing the 2nd Amendment, it’s only about a mention of an asinine statement by LaPierre, executive VP of the NRA, without a shred of fact or truth, and it’s only the first few sentences of a larger article, and people with defective reasoning habits like you get all worked up, betraying the pre-frontal cortex you are endowed with, but for whatever reason, have rendered inoperative by a self imposed lobotomy.

        • Old Faithful Geyser

          Bugger,

          WTF are you rattling on about? If you can not see that Obama and his band of Morons is trying to negate the 2nd Amendment to the Consititution then your just totally delusional.
          This article is not about Wayne LePierre, it is about a speech that he gave concerning the actions of this administration, that has shown complete distain for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that this country has held sacred and revered, most importantly the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution.
          What’s the matter little boy, wouldn’t the NRA let you join?
          It’s turds like you, that allowed the piece of shit President we have now to occupy the Oval office.

        • Windrinker

          A man that calls himself “BUGGER” (the act of having anal sex) shouldn’t be talking about someone else and their “defective reasoning habits!) LOL

        • Windrinker

          A man that calls himself “BUGGER” (the act of having you know what) shouldn’t be talking about someone else and their “defective reasoning habits!) LOL

    • Dark_Archer

      obama is a black muslim who hates America and white people

      romney is an American moderate liberal

      so who you gonna vote for …anyone who thinks romney is the same as obama is a fvcking idiot

      BHO – AMERICAS PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE

    • AZ Don

      Get on topic:

    • Outraged

      What happened to the “separation of church and state” the government has been using against the church for so many years? The original intent of our founding fathers was so the government wouldn’t be allowed to dictate to the church what they could and couldn’t do. The only way they should be able to interfere is to withdraw government funding if they get any.

    • donald

      Perhaps you should call yourself “Shallow Greg F”. Rather than just listen to the distortions and fabrications coming from the liberals, dig a little deeper and do some research for yourself about Romney. With a little education and research you may be amazed at what you turn up.

    • Kansas Kahuna

      Greg F…As usual, your comments are right on the money. What in the world were the SO-CALLED Conservatives thinking by voting RINO romney into the lead at the CPAC convention. This IS NOT a case of fool me once, fool me twice, but you can fool me time and time again. Yes, obama and his socialist/communist cohorts are laughing their asses off at the stupidity of the GOP voters. Like a flock of sheep, they (WE) are being led to slaughter! Maybe this is why the bible verses refers to the Lord as a shepard, watching over his flock of sheep! GET READY FOR THE BLOODY REVOLUTION THAT IS BEING FORCED UPON US BY THESE BRAINLESS GOP VOTERS!!!

    • Skydiver

      Romney has a history of being anti-2nd amendment! Check out his previous actions.

    • msbets

      greg……….this article is about the jackal…………not mitt romney!!!!

    • Larry E

      Which has what to do with your boy Obama, who has always been and still is staunchly anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment?

      If this bum is reelected we’ll see more of our money funneled to his buddies, while he’s busily appointing anti-constitutionalists to the Supreme Court, and running illegal operations like Fast and Furious out of the Dept of Injustice.

      Keep on blaming everyone else you dimwit, and enjoy four more years of Benito Hussein Mussolini Obama with your taxes and energy costs going through the roof.

    • chris

      or vote for obobo, he is doing an excellent job of trying to control every aspect of our lives.

    • Granny

      Lets all vote for Obama and see the United States be further screwed. After all we must want Obama (non US Citizen) in for 4 more years. According to all the remarks that I read none of the Republicans are good enough and will ruin the United States. So lets all vote for Muslim rule, so all the wives & children can be killed simply for ruining the family reputation. Have not read anywhere that the Mormon religion has done this, nor the Catholic religion, etc., etc. So all your remarks have not been checked out before you let your fingers walk thru the keyboard. Which of you are the illegals or Camel jockey origin?

    • MacLoklan

      There you are again, Mr. Greg f. First in line. You must sit at your keyboard 24/7 with or without your underwear playing with yourself while waiting for the next conservative blog to show up on your screen.

    • johnwayne337

      We hear a lot of polotiticians refer to states rights, and Romney states that the States have the right, and he is WRONG and completely ignorant of the 14th Amendement section one that states “No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of US; NOR SHALL ANY STATE DEPRIVE ANY PERSON OF LIFE, LIBERTY OR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF THE LAW, NOR DENY TO ANY PERSON WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION THE EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS.

      SO ROMNEY-CARE WAS/IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL

    • JIM

      IF obama GET’S A SECOND TERM HE WILL DO AWAY WITH OUR CONSTITION . HE NOW TRYING TO DO AWAY WITH THE 1ST-2ND AND THE 4 TH AMENDENT.
      HE NEEDS TO BE SENT BACK TO AFERICA ,HE DON’T LIKE OUR WAY OF LIFE HERE EVEN HIS WIFE SAID SHE WASEN’T PROUD TO BE CALLED AN AMERICAN TILL AFTER HE WAS ELECTED PRESDENT SO SEND HER WITH HIM

    • Miss Vinay Duggal

      I’m voting for Newt Gingrch…a true American and Patriot!

    • raymond armstrong

      Hey the way I see it read the constitution in order to change or to amend the constitution has to written and voted on by the house & senate an ratafied so many state I think it 2/3 . The matter is gutless senate don.t have the balls.///////thanks ray READ YOUR CONSTITUTION ONCE IN WHILE THE CHURCHES RIGHT NOW COULD TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGHEST COURT THE LAND ///THANKS RAY

    • DeMenace

      Ron Paul 2012 is the answer!

    • DeMenace

      The answer to the problem…RON PAUL 2012!

    • DeMenace

      Ron Paul 2012! The only defender of the “Constitution” who should be president!

    • Nanna

      Greg F: I couldn’t agree more. However, who in the world are we to vote for, is the question on my mind. I kind of like Rick Santorum, and Yes, I know he also has a few wrinkles that need to be ironed out. I don’t know very much about Chris Christie, but from what litle research I have done on him to dtae, it seems HE is no more eligible than obummer. I Don’t know if Ron Paul wold be the right person, given some of his ideals. So, who else does this leave us with in the GOP side of the field.

      I have finally gotten through to my family that they should no longer vote “democrat”, and believe me, it was no minor task to do so, as they have been dyed in the wool domocrats from way back.

      However, unless we can get the GOP to back a TRUE, Constitutional, Fiscal Conservative, I would not vote for anyone else they have eithr.

      Any suggestions.

    • A Smith

      Hay if Obama wants my guns he can come and try to get them. Any other muslum will get the same. More than half A million Americans died to keep those rights. I served for 4 years and earned the right to keep them. There is only one candit that will get Washington out of your life and his name is Ron Paul. My guns will stay right where their at and I feel sorry for the shumck that tries to take something I earned.

    • Patrick Henry

      Take a breath Greg F. this article is about the 2nd. amendment and not about a forum of your political views on the Republican nominee Romney. Romney was top vote getter in the CPAC, is endorced by Ann Coulter, ultra-Conservative, and even Santorum in the last election. Gov. Romney is 100 times better than Obama or any in the liberal Democrat Party, and will NOT take away your right to keep & bear arms, and he is a big believer in State Rights and a very limited Federal Government!

    • Bob in Boston

      Romney did absolutely NOTHING for the 2nd amendment while in office either. He didn’t create the bad laws or give the Mass Attorney General ridiculous amounts of control over firearms-related issues, but he also did absolutely NOTHING to help. Mass still has some of the dumbest gun laws in the country, and while it’s possible to get a concealed carry ( so we’re not as backwards as New York, Chicago, or DC) it’s still not as easy as its supposed to be to get a gun permit. Romney is just not who we need in Washington right now. The last thing we need is another Goldman Sachs shill in the whitehouse.
      The one with the best 2nd amendment voting record is easily Ron Paul – no other candidate even comes close.

    • Bob Johnson

      Thanks Greg. I almost forgot about that. Almost…

  • Greg F

    MITT ROMNEY would team up with HARRY REID and those 2 mormon would DESTROY America just as fast as Obama. ROMNEY HATES the poor. ROMNEY loves to fire people. He sure won’t care about your freedom of speech or religion.

    MITT ROMNEY would be just as big a Dictator as Obama.

    • http://i niles

      The only way to find as big a dictator as Obama would be to dig up Hitler.

      • Mr. Right

        He would erase the whole Constition if he could.

      • Old Faithful Geyser

        niles,

        Try Joseph Stalin, Now there was a Dictator.
        Hell, Hitler was just a beginner compared to Stalin.

    • The Big Geezer

      Greg: your comments are that of an idiot. Romney does not ‘hate the poor’… that is what the dishonest liberals are trying to manufacture… it’s simply LIE based upon a poorly worded response by him. Romney does not like to ‘fire people’… he likes to have the right to demand performance from companies that receive our money or he will find competitors that will do a better job. You are either a liberal… or a liar… or an idiot who can’t put forth rational and truthful dialog.

      • don

        mr. geezer so you are the one who will cast the first stone. keep drinking the cool aid

        • http://i niles

          Mr. Geezer may have cast a stone. Mr Greg threw the first brick. It is silly to claim Romney hates the poor. He is only parroting something taken out of context by the Obama liberal media.

          • rulken

            Yes I agree with Big John; the Obama would LOVE nothing more, than to get us to go at each others throats, and “divide us”. The “main media” can’t be trusted to tell the truth about anything.
            They just don’t get it, their job as journalist, is to report the facts only, and inform the public of events, and incidents that have happened. The “news media” isn’t there to entertain us, they are suppose to report the news facts, period!
            It’s really ironic, the one news agency that seems to do the best, in reporting the facts is an “entertainment based industry” FOX News!!
            Wow, what a joke our freedom of press, news agencies have become!

      • BigJohn

        YOU have it right.
        These people are listening to the lib press again.

      • OMG

        This might help you think twice about voting for Romney. Please read all 35 reports. It’s all starting to crash down around them. They are nothing but CROOKS.
        http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/

        • Nanna

          OMG: I had no idea until I just read this report, just how low and untrustworthy Romney really is. Thank you so much for the link.

      • donald

        Geezer’s right. Lot’s of liberal distortion here!!!

      • Nanna

        The Big Geezer: I dislike Mitt Romney because HE was the first one to come up with this very same Health Programm in his own state. He is as bad as obumbler.

    • comsense08

      I think you are right. He would have a few degree difference in his heading, but the major direction would be the same. No, I don’t like his track record of compromise. We DO NOT want a compromiser in chief in the white house. Yes, it would be better than the socialist that’s there, but most of America does NOT was to compromise. They understand what this nation was founded on, they understand the protections of the constitution, and all they have to do is look at the rest of the world to see were we are headed! NO COMPROMISE, that’s what’s put us this far in the ditch already!

      • Ray Sarchet

        Dear Commonsense08
        You are so very correct. The elites that own all the major media, including FOX, hate the
        second amendment. They want it removed! They plan to remove it either quickly with Hussein Obama, or slowly with RINOs. America is like the frog in the kettle of water on the stove
        with low heat. The Euro-Socialist Elites plan to cook us, even slowly if they must.

        Killing the Bill of Rights including the Second Amendment is an important step to them!

        • Nanna

          Ray Sarchet: I agree with you. I am still learning the system in this my adopted country. If I am not mistaken, there are only SOME of the Congress due for re-election, correct? That is why, I believe we need to recall those who are not due for re-election and force them to be re-elected or booted out this coming election. Have I got it right, or have I misread my information again?
          Sorry Administrator, I didn’t think I was typing that fast. I will slow down.

    • Dredtost

      Greg, if Romney is as bad as Obama is, and given the choice between the two, then who would you vote for? Or would you stay home and not vote? Please answer! This is not a smartass reply to you because I hear alot of people ask this and I myself am not happy with Romney at all! Or is it a case like in 2010 where we voted for anyone except the incumbent??? Let all of us reading know your thoughts. Good luck Greg!

      • Dredtost

        To all the people who have written comments on this site, you are all winners in my book! However, in 33 years of practice has taught me one thing, never say ” Can’t, Won’t, Never, or Always”! As to Mr. Filipino Redneck, if you are afraid of writing what you feel in this website, you are already afraid to stand up in public for what you believe in?? What will you do when you are confronted with some gov’t worker, armed or not, who wants you turn over your guns, books, drugs, foodstuffs, etc. that the gov’t now wants and demands from us! We all talk the talk but will we humbly and fearfully comply or will we stand and refuse even if we risk physical or personal injury and death to ourselves or our family or friends! Come on readers, be honest and truthful and honest with ourselves! Remember, we won’t be fighting paper dragons or zombies here! I pray to God it never but with the world situation and the political situation in Mexico and South America, it could be sooner than we all think! I again pray it never happens to this great nation!

        • bobby nealey

          When push comes to shove you people will be suprised.You will do things you never thought you could do, others that run their mouth about what they will do will not be so suprised because they already know that they are just running their mouths trying to look big. Until you cross that bridge you don’t know what you will do.If you have already been there then congrateulations you are ahead of most people and have learned a very valuable lesson.

      • Joseph C Moore, USN Ret

        It appears to me that voting for “anyone but the incumbent” is precisely what You and all the rest of the “anyone but Obama” crowd are advocating. Why not vote conscience and facts instead of rhetoric. Our country is in dire straits because of following party line and expecting Constitutional Government. The NEOCONS are NOT Constitutional Conservatives. Big government CFR people of BOTH political parties have been destroying the Constitutional Republic.

        • Glenn

          Too many people Joe have no clue about this very thing. If the situation was not so serious it would be comical to watch them fight about who is going to take America to the third world first.

    • Windrinker

      Greg, can you substantiate your claim that Romney was abusing the Catholic Church? Give us a link!

    • ThinkAboutIt

      Oh really Greg – you think Mitt can do all that by himself? Get a grip for a minute. Legislation must pass both houses of the Congress and then be signed into law by the president. Even the awful things that Obummer, Geithner, and Holder have done had to have the explicit approval of a majority in the Senate and the House. A previous poster said it correctly: through the primaries, support Newt, or Paul, or Mitt, or Rick, and let’s get down to who represents the GOP in November – but I would vote for the insole from a pair of filthy, stinking Nike’s sitting in the landfill before I’d vote for Obummer the Divider.

    • bevad

      Greg F – my comment above was ment for YOU

    • donald

      Perhaps you should call yourself “Shallow Greg F”. Rather than just listen to the distortions and fabrications coming from the liberals, dig a little deeper and do some research for yourself about Romney. With a little education and research you may be amazed at what you turn up.

    • MacLoklan

      There is nly one word for you – BIGOT!

  • danimal

    Try to take them, I”ll be ready

    • seabee combat vet

      I’d give them my guns. Ammunition first!!!!!!!!!

      • Rocky

        We are with you “Sir” and thank you for your service for America,we need more like you “Sir.”

      • jim

        Same here – I’ve had 26 + years on active duty in the Seabees. Bravo Company was my home for many years . I retired but I never forgotten my re-enlistment oath either.

      • Bob H

        seabee combat vet. Your right it may come down to just that we may have to protect are Constitution from those who want to take them from us. We as a nation see a Government who as gotten so big and out of control it’s tyrany, we all talk about what needs to be none come Nov 6 2012 and I truly feel we can do this, but my fear in November are we going to have a clean election without voter fraud in States were you don’t have to show I.D. Right now you and I can see that this Obama Government is dishing out false information on unemployment and about Obama approvel rating going up, is this election over before we even get to vote ? This next election is do or die for are Constitution and we need people to help watch are polling stations around are country to make sure all is right with the vote. Again Obama so call army of Acorn and Union people will try and do what ever it takes to win this next election. If we fail I fear we will have a civil war, when Obama trys to take are guns away from the American hunter the biggest army in the world from bearing arms then all hell will brake out.

        • Windrinker

          Bob, IF an election happens, it is because “the fix is in for hussein.” There won’t be an election otherwise.

          We need a miracle to get to stomop on this cockroach..

      • Lily55

        U got it right brother. I have reloading material in a VERY SAFE PLACE, plus, I’m always locked and loaded. I have to being a single..OK..divorced woman..and yes, he fell short of walking in the WORD.. as did I, but thank GOD he brought me out of the pit of fire into His loving peace. I pray for my ex as well. After all..we were placed together for a reason. Target practice perhaps… NOT. Funny I must say. We just didn’t make it. The next man in my “permanently married life” will carry a gun, be a complete gentleman, keep his has to him self unless married, and be politically on my page. I couldn’t stand a BHO man in my life. I’d have to fix him and extremely delicious dinner!! Hey, I’m not always on my broom. I love life and Jesus our KING too much. EVIL…I can say I HATE! When one can’t pay their bills just to stay protected and a damn light on.. the last place I’ll go is the government, thank you very much. The WILL give me a 666 number then, ya think?? I believe fully.

  • Rosco1776

    Legalize the constitution, vote Ron Paul 2012 !!

    • Rocky

      I’ve been pushing for Ron Paul,he is the only one to save us from more tyranny,from the Fraud-
      in Chief”,he needs to step down or we can help him down,vote for “Mr. Ron Paul,”Americans.

      • comsense08

        Rocky, Ron Paul would save us?? All by himself? How do you think he will accomplish any of the things he’s been throwing around out there? He won’t be a king or dictator so he won’t have the power. Do you think for one minute the huge power base in Washington will just go “oh, ok Paul, what ever you say”? Paul will be isolated, the congress will override him, and abosolutely NOTHING will get done. Not to mention the daily beating he will get from the media with only a token support from the American people. No, Ron Paul CANNOT make the changes he is throwing out there. So, why waste the opportunity to actually make some changes and put a total freeze on the democrats? White House, House and Senate all working tother to unplug liberal America. Now THAT makes sense.

        • bobby nealey

          It doesn’t matter who we vote in,if we don’t get rid of reid and take control of the senate we will be just spinning our wheels, we will not get anything done and more important anything undone. I am for Mitt but he like Ron Paul and anybody else will have their hands tied as long as reid and the demarats control the senate so when you vote , as much as I hate to say it you have to vote streight republican . I like to hire the best person for the job demacrat or republican , this time it’s got to be republican no matter how low or sorry they are.

        • Joseph C Moore, USN Ret

          Voting for anyone other than Dr Paul means continuing the neocon/socialist left destruction of the Constitution and expecting a return to Constitutionality. How do you think the country got into the fiscal and global insanity it is in? Big government policy in BOTH parties created the mess and you are expecting a reversal of this destructive course with neocons who impress you with their rhetoric instead of their actions?

        • Glenn

          Thats the problem its more than the democrats that is taking down this country can’t you see this ?

      • donald

        The problem with Paul is his foreign policy. With him in the White House Iran would feel emboldened to produce a nuclear weapon and the islamist terrorists would feel they had a renewed license to once again attack the United States.

        • JC

          That’s just plain bull!
          You should actually “read” his policies rather be told what they supposedly are.
          Do you really think that the only real American Patriot in the running would stand aside and see America threatened or attacked?
          Give your head a shake!

          All he’s saying is that Congress must declare war.
          And America isn’t supposed to be getting dragged all over the planet by the freakin UN.

      • Darryl Hanson

        Ron Paul WILL NOT be the GOP nominee. Face it! Paul is a fine gentleman with some good ideas, but he has been lampooned too much in the past to be the standard bearer for president.
        I like him, but I am a realist. It will probably be Romney. Ron Paul will destroy Rick Santorum before it’s over. I just saw a Ron Paul ad about the Ricketeer. It’s devastating. Maybe a Romney/Paul ticket, and unleash Paul to go after the unconstitutional Federal Reserve!!!

  • Xavier Pattonson

    The President can alter the Constitution, what is this guy talking about? He cant even take steps to stop enforcing the second Amendment, and though assualt weapons should be banned or clip weapons–weapons that are not for hunting or target practive–the President cannot do this without gigantic support which he does not have. More fear. On top of that, I dont think it is his wish in any case. Scare tactics to get the LIVs to vote against him in fear, not policy.

    • http://yahoo Luca Brasi

      Please let me pop your dumb ass back into reality sir, ONE more , Anti-American, Liberal,
      piece of “Living Excretion” like this Ginsburg “thing” on our Supreme Court, and you will see
      what your Socialist President will do ! Not only will he break the back of OUR Constituton
      with his appointments of these Traitorous subversives, but he will strip Americans of many other freedoms ! Scare Tactics ??? You Wish !

      • Windrinker

        Luca, you have got that right!

        Need proof, just look at what has been done to this country in three years. There is so much that is being done behind closed doors, Americans will be appalled when these things are implemented…

        Americans will wake up one day and the Constitution will no longer be our founding document. It will have been replaced with a marxist document and will finish us, if we don’t come out with a couple hundred million and take the country back..

      • Old Faithful Geyser

        Luca,

        Your spot on the button about the Supreme Court and the nominees. If Obama gets a 2nd term and appoints from 1 to possibly 3 new Justices to the Supreme Court, this country will be run for the next 40 years or more by the LIBERAL/SOCIALIST and will no longer be worthy of living in. THAT IS A FACT. The balance of power will be held by ONE party, The DEMOCRAT SOCIALIST PARTY of the Socialist States of North America with His Majesty Barak Hussein Obama , Secreatary General and Chief Potentate.
        We have a few in the Republican Party, to blame for the ease that Obama had in getting his two Liberal Lesbian Girl Friends seated on that court now. We don’t need any more.
        The ONLY way we can secure our future and that of our country, is to ELECT someone other than Obama or any Democrat for that matter.

    • guido

      Hello, Xavier

      The Constitution says the Fed’s will enforce our border, who just “granted” asylum/citizenship to anybody who walks across the ( virtually unguarded) border? Did he have Constitutional authority or popular backing for that?
      What do you think “Fast and Furious/Gunwalker” was? It was an overtly illegal and unconstitutional effort to drum up anti-gun support here. Did he have authority or “popular support”?
      What world are you living in? If you refer to this tin-horn dictator as your president, it may not be my world.

      With due respect,
      -guido

      “God Loves Liberty”

      • Rocky

        Obummer is an illegal him self,phony Social Security Card with no green card,take him away
        Sheriff Joe,take him away in irons-leg irons!!! And duct tape his mouth shut,don’t let him spew anything more from his mouth!!!

        • Windrinker

          The illegal foreigner squatting in the oval office is crapping on every American in this country.
          He has never been a citizen of this country and isn’t one now! Do any of you really think that Americans “voted this piece of foreign sh!t into office!” He was not chosen by our people.

          He was “anointed to rule by our shadow government.” It was arranged years before 2008 that he would sit on the “throne of American.” That is why Congress won’t bring charges against him. That is why his identity has been hidden from Americans. We have seen nothing but phony documents and phony claims about education and accomplishments.
          This is an “empty suit with no identity.” We don’t even know who are his real parents. We only know what we have been told by MSM and the books he wrote about his life (and why would he write about his life without any real accomplishments.)

          This foreigner is a total fraud without a real degree of any kind, with parents and country of origin that has been kept secret! A foreigner had to be put on the throne of America. It had to be someone other than an American. It had to be a person that had been taught all his life to hate our people and our way of life….our success! Who else could perpetrate such crimes against our country and revel in its destruction. We should be outraged!

          Just heard about a North Dakota University that has SOLD 500 degrees to foreign students that never attended and submitted falsified records.

      • bobby nealey

        GOD is not the only one, I love my liberty and freedom to and I would like to leave this world or I should say country in a condition so that our children and grand children can enjoy it as I have for hundred’s of years to come.The fools that are trying to destroy this country must hate their children and are so self centered that all they care about is only what they want for them selves . That is the mentality of theives and murders .

    • DWAIN

      Hew has already gone beyond His constituional powers and got away with it.I do not think You even know what an assault weapon is.I am old enough to remember when the very first started making You sign to get a gun.Most people thought noo problem.I said it is just a foot in the door and only the begining and I was right.
      When I was 12 years old I bought my first gun,a single shot .22 and I sent $12.00 cash to a company and they sent it to Me by US Mail.When I was in high school I bought blasting powder that We used on the farm.I went to the local hardware store bought the powder at my noon lunch break and took it home with Me on the school buss after school.Today I have to have a permit.
      Control of guns does not take guns from criminals only honest people.
      Obama is a socialist and they want gun control.He has been backed by the Communist Party USA and counts as His friends Bill Ayers and other Weather Underground members plus Wright who is a racist and was Obama’s pastor for 20 years!

      • bobby nealey

        When Hitler out lawed guns he made a speach, I have a sticker with part of that speach on the back window of one of my trucks.I hope I never see or hear that about this country. You get a chance look it up.

    • Ray Mason

      Whatever works! We have to eradicate this pestilence from our government. Obama needs to move to South America and hang out with his buddy Hugo. They are both destined for the waste heap of history as sorry human beings.

    • steve

      you are very misguided in your thoughts but what do i expect from a liberal ,its just hard to image how you could believe the things you write .

    • don

      xavier where you been the consitition has already been trashed . an if you are willing to give up a sertion gun then they’ll come back for a little more. NO COMPERMISE PERIOD. they must be totaly beaten. wake up

    • JC

      Xavier, The 2nd Amendment wasn’t written for deer hunting, it was written to keep tyrants in check. Ergo: Fully automatic weapons would be well within that scope.

      • RHSchumann

        I thought we live in a Democracy. If the drafters of the 2nd Amerndment though of tyrants they meant the British

        • dntmkmecomovrther

          @rhschummann: it’s ignorance like yours that put us in the pisshole we’re in now. We do NOT live in a democracy; we live in a REPUBLIC! Learn the difference so that you know what it is and why it’s worth fighting for. I can’t believe there are people who graduate basic schooling and don’t know this difference.

    • jj

      Xavier… you’re not really that stupid,… are you…?
      If you want ANY guns or accessories banned I suggest you get the hell out of this country. …and as for the liar in chief, all he’s done is violate the constitution… he is NOT law abiding so why would any law matter? He already proven 50+ times over that he and his cronies will do ANYTHING to bring about their agenda. …which is clearly a nation of slaves to the government.

    • RivahMitch

      Wrong on two counts:
      First: the President can and does “change the Constitution”. The hallucinatory concept of it being “a living document” (Do you believe the founders stupid or would you sign a contract that can be “reinterpreted” at the whim of 9 people) coupled with the appointment powers related to federal judges makes it possible. (Remember history and “the switch in time that saved the nine” under FDR? Thomas Jefferson warned: “Our peculiar security is in possession of a WRITTEN Constitution…let us NOT make it a BLANK PAPER by construction!”

      Second, the Second Amendment has nothing to do with “hunting or target practice” and everything to do with self-defense, the preservation of freedom and the absolute limit on government power. To share a few quotations:

      Thomas Jefferson said “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”

      Chief justice Joseph Story wrote: “The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.”

      Ultimately, the Second Amendment is the guarantor of all the other limitations on government contained in the bill of rights. To construe it as a trivial thing for hunters or hobbiests is to mistake the source of our freedoms. They come not from the government but from our Creator and ourselves.

    • RHSchumann

      I am fully with you. And pay no attention what the idiots who ridicule you for your thoughtful comments are saying.

    • donald

      Obviously, Xavier, you are not paying attention to what obama and holder are doing and saying. Which is the same scenario that got obama elected!

  • steve

    So who are they going to send to get my guns. Who?

    • http://yahoo Luca Brasi

      Obviously they’re gonna send Xavier…. the only person stupid enough to try to dis-arm a TRUE AMERICAN!

    • Mike Travis

      They will send DHS, or FBI, or Oscuma’s private army that he is building with money stolen from the healthcare bill. Who is not the issue. The issue is that he wants and intends to steal all our guns so he can erase the Constitution once and for all. If we let him or anyone do that, shame on us for not standing up like our Founders did to defend our God given rights. If we do not stand up to defend the rights God has given to us, then we do not deserve them.

    • JC

      Steve, They’ll send mercenaries or the UN. Lock and Load.

      • Ginzo

        The UN a organization we should not even be a part of or let them be on our shores.

    • Mike Leonardi

      Obama stole 6 trillion dollars from Americans. 6 trillion is over half of the debt he started with three years ago, of all the debt this country had in its history. This money purchased the weapons he needed to support the troops he has, clinton went to the UN and signed documents stating we would disarm during the exact time frame “Fast and Furious” was being implemented. Then Fast and Furious was discovered, Holder is still lying about the whole deal, clinton walks around untouched, nobody in the congress is holding obama in account for anything. Americans must stand their ground and fight. Be prepared both mentally and physically, they will use your family as targets and break you. Homeland Security bought millions of rounds using your tax dollars. We are here whether you like it or not. Its coming regardless if you feel there is another way. This has happened before in history in the United States and now you know how early Americans felt, what they were thinking and the stand they took to secure their liberties we are here to do it again. This time nobody walks away. This time you persue untilthey are caught and eliminated. WE ARE HERE. Stop crying and bitchin and get your head out of your a$$. You have been sold out. Now stand on your own two feet or watch your family, loved ones and neighbors get crucified.
      Mike in Afghanistan

    • RivahMitch

      Unfortunately, Steve, my bet is that their first move will be to send in local law enforcement. Tactically, this will split local law enforcement personnel rendering them less effective for either side (and potentially separating them from their communities), pit neighbors against each other weakening local communities and allow a quick canvas of communities that are “in rebellion” without spending any significantgovernment blood or resources. Strategically, the resistance will give them the excuse to use martial law to follow up. It’s going to be a tragic time no matter which side ultimately survives…neither will “win” but, as Winston Churchill said “…….if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

  • Texas001

    If you think nobama was bad for this country in his first term just give him another term and he will really show you what he is about. Gun control, no not gun control but gun confiscation. “With guns, we are citizens. Without them, we are subjects.” I believe that quote was from Thomas Jefferson.

  • Dan W Rykard

    MITT ROMNEY is not the man to defeat Obama> I am not sure we as a RNC has the right person to defeat OBAMA. It is going to take all the Christian leaders to get their congregation to get out and Vote, some hoe get the message to the middle age OR the age group 25-40 to understand they can not live of the government, and capitalism has work for years and still will work and does do not believe OBAMA or any other person tell you the Stimulus money to the car business did not help them come back it was the same hard work that has brought all business back, over the years, ingenuity and sweet and good mines of our people that work there. So please do not allow OBAMA to keep lying to you, HE HAS DONE NONETHING TO HELP FOR THE GOOD. He is to busy trying to break AMERICA.

  • CAllenDoudna

    Should Obama retain Power in November–by whatever means–80% of the United States of
    America will seceed.

    • joe

      you mean the illiterates that can’t spell?

  • AMERICAN SEABEE

    IF THEY COMES FOR OUR GUNS, GIVE THEM A BULLET. FULL SPEED AHEAD.

    • alvin

      will this be the same people who came by your house and got your 8 track tape player?I guess you are waiting at the door for them to come get your gun.With the stroke of an inkpen your gun will become worthless and useless without bullets and shells.I do agree with you,but they will never walk up to your door and “TAKE” your gun.It will be done thru search and seizure laws and making it illegal to OWN a gun.Walmart will stop selling bullets and shells.

      • jim

        If we have to explain it to you alvin , you’d never understand it !

      • pikemaster

        Your a little bit right ?? Wal-Mart would be ordered to stop selling ammo,but ammo would be found just as anything else is (drugs,moonshine etc.) where their is a market ,there will be a buyer. Ammo can and will be made ,whether at home or from some other country. Look around and see just how many guns are being bought and ammo being stocked up right now ? It may suprise you ? When they start to send in the kings troops,the king himself will be one of the first to go. I am also an American navy vet. and served for freedom for my family and country and would along with many defend to my death if needed,our 2nd Admin.rights. Without those rights,none else would matter long anyways. God Bless

  • tanto

    No way are the feds taking our guns.
    There will be a lot of dead body around. Think the Civil War was bad. Look out. Oh if thy try I wouldn’t be shock to see Obama go first the the rest of the Politicians One by One.

  • Filipino Redneck

    Be VERY CAUTIOUS of your remarks folks….with Harry al-Reid now making another attempt to control the internet, you can assume these folks are going to try to track people down. Feel what you feel, but don’t write it down…you’ll ALL BE NEEDED should ‘they’ force our hand.

    • Robert Peavy

      That is the problem Redneck , afraid to stand up and say what you want. Freedom of speech protected by 2nd am . No one should have to be fearfull of writing or saying how they feel.
      You my friend had better grow a set .

    • pikemaster

      Maybe not for long,but for now we still have the 1st Admin. I’ll say whatever I damn well please !!

    • HOTROD

      MR.REDNECK,I’M A REDNECK TOO.I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID.HOWEVER IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT WE SAY,THEY KNOW ANY WAY.WE HAVE TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED.THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD.AMERICAN’S ARE AN UNWISE PEOPLE.IF THEY TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR,YOU’LL VOTE THERE WAY,WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR RECORDS AND FACTS.DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THE(CLUB OF ROME) OR BUILDERBERGS OR ILLUMINATI OR THE ROTHCHILD PROJECT?THEIR MAIN PURPOSE AND GOAL IS THE PURSUIT OF ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.THEY HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE ALONG TIME.PEOPLE,CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF.DECREES WORLD POPULATION,FOOD SHORTAGES,DEVALUE OUR MONEY,TAKE YOUR SAVINGS AWAY,ASSASSINATION BOARDS,INTERMENT CAMPS FOR AMERICANS.IT’S ALL IN PLAY RIGHT NOW.ONLY CHRIST CAN HELP US.WE THE PEOPLE HAVE ALLOWED PRAYER TO BE TAKEN OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS,TEN COMMANDMENTS OFF OUR WALL,OUT OF OUR COURT HOUSES,NATIVITIES OFF PUBLIC LAND.WHAT ELSE DOES ONE NEED TO WAKE UP.THIS ELECTION IS FOR THE LIFE OF AMERICAN RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS.USA’S MOST IMPORTANT DAYS.JESUS CHRIST MUST BE THE CENTER OF OUR LIVES,IN OUR ELECTION,OUR WHITE HOUSE AND OUR NATION.REMEMBER THESE TIMES WE FACE ARE A SPIRITUAL NATURE,NOT RELIGION .PICK WHICH SIDE YOUR ON.YOUR ETERNITY DEPENDS ON IT. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

  • jim 28th reg.

    Steve you ask who will they send ? Well take a drive around one of our military bases. There’s foreign troops there (for training). Then you have all the muslim training camps through out the country,and how many butt sucking generals do we have.?
    Now add to that those terrorists created by the brits and our own cia bent on sucking up the likes of Satans offspring =rockys,roths,sorry soros and the rest of the traitors that have beeen in and out of the White House. The crap heads in the UN.-CFR-those pedophiles worshiping that owl out there in the land of fruits and nuts. That’s who will come to take what you have.
    It will be your neighbor-the man you’ve seen at the coffee counter at the same time every day.
    With the help of countless traitors in business’ and government they will destroy this country.
    Do you see any difference in republican or democrat? If you do you’re still blind. Paul is this nations only hope and look at these silly ass shows they’re putting on. The vote machines are rigged. If you don’t believe it you’re dumber than a rock. The machines need to be destroyed before the election comes so maybe just maybe we can get a some what honest paper ballot election.

  • JACK

    I will vote against loseing Mitt Romney and Obama! Both are losers and Ron Paul is a anti Jewish pro Iran loser that if he was smart would of kept his mouth of such issues but Ronnie Paul is way behind!

  • Amerigo M. Cimino

    Mr. Obama believes he IS a Dictator! He says; “I am the President”; emphasis on the “I”!
    What has happened to our representatives? Does anyone have anything to say, except Obama? Are we witnessing the dawn of a dictator? When does this end? There is no governing going on; we have been subjected to a series of regulating and taxing, with the prospects of more of the same! The law books are getting thicker, and our freedoms are being thrown under the bus! Always with the fear of some form of terror lurking behind every decision. We are supposed to have rid ourselves from a tyrannical government, with a REVOLUTIONARY WAR! Are we in fact, going to repeat history? The looming prospect of Iran’s entrance into the atomic age, is another of these “fear” tactics. Also, Iran is going to barricade the Strait of Hormuz, and we will be forced back to the Horse and Buggy society!
    Canada wants to build a pipeline; (OIL), but that is a solution; and our government is NOT looking for solutions! We, the electorate are being played as dummies, or nit-wits, in this
    plot. We are watching the advent of a new election, and the question about whom will lead us for the next four years. Have you listened to the “promises”? The big subject; Health Care!
    The health of the individual will not be an item, but a chess piece in the farce!
    Government is going out of control. Anything being done, amounts to influence peddling, and the “Race Card” is always present! What next?

  • dr jon

    nope===never happen—obummer will be gone in november

  • Bob

    If Obama is stupid enough to try to take our guns,I hope you guys & gals aren’t stupid enough to just hand them in.You know guns break and get destroyed,guns get lost or you just don’t know what happened to a gun you had.I already can’t remember where all my guns are LOL.
    Also there are millions of gun owners,many more than even our military.So who is going to try to take our guns if we say no?I believe most of our military are also NRA members.Hopefully they will be on our side if Obama or anyone trys to overthrow the 2nd amendment.
    People without guns are subjects of their government.I believe that is the reason the 2nd amendment was created by our founders.They knew that to remain free citizens must be armed.They were pretty smart guys for their time in history.
    I hope and pray that we never have to fight to retain our freedom,but I for one will never lay down and be run over without a fight.
    We fought the Brits and won.We can defeat Obama in November and return our great country to prosperity.

    Get everyone you know out to VOTE in November.Drag them,Drive them,kick them in the a$$,but get them to the polls.We must win this one……

  • Amazingoly

    In November, the voters will put Obama back in his place, and send his circus back to Chicago where he belongs. Absolutely does not “deserve” a second term.

    • alvin

      I hope you are correct.America is at a tipping point .

  • D. M. T.

    bho must go before it’s to late… along with his minions of $#i+ bags.

  • wharfrat

    America listen, Obama said he’s going to fundamentally change America,the Constitution is a flaud document,and the last little tidbit,he said he needs four more years to take America where HE thinks it should go!!what more do we need?he’s going to take us down the drain to destruction and Communisum,he jumps around from one thing to another,like last week quoting Jesus when we all know he is possessed with evil,claiming he’s a Christian is deception,a Christian wouldn’t try to destroy our nation,vote him out or we’re doomed.

  • Mike Knight

    The fact is he will win just like dictators in other nations always win. There’s plenty of proof that the election system is rigged, and Barry has been the best NWO servant ever. They’re going to give him a second term or he’ll take it for himself. He has no issues with breaking multiple laws so why not rig the election. I just don’t see this egomaniac being a one termer.

    • Kobra

      Mike… What you say is sad but very possibly true. Unless a very large percentage of CONSERVITIVES … GET OUT AND VOTE!!! If they dont we will see the biggest over reach and takeover of OUR Govt. in the history of the world!! You WILL learn what all the “New” FEMA camps are all about and what it’s really like to be hungry and SUFFER!!

  • Mike Ledo

    He is just pandering to conservatives because there are people stupid enough to believe him and he had a room full of them at C-PAC listening to soundbites. The second amendment is not going anywhere.

    • FreedomLover

      Mike,

      Are you really so Nieve to believe that Tryannical Governments don’t want to disarm their people and call people Stupid, who in fact know damn well that given 4 more years anything is possible from this Administration? The 2nd Amendment has been under attact from the liberal Commies at least back to the Clinton Adminstration and will Continue. The NRA and Gun owners are the two of the only things that are keeping this Jack of a President in check.

  • FreedomLover

    The only thing that will prevent the Tyranny of this President is the fact that so many Good, Honest Americans (Unlike Obummer) own Guns. Like Moses (I mean Charlton Heston) said, “From My Cold Dead Hands.” Obummer, don’t send any of your litte Commies to dare try and take my Guns from my Home.

  • bluqe

    Oh how we need to go back to life before OBAMA. This man never ever should have been president. He goes way beyond being progressive, I am begining to believe he is a communist.
    It is true we were divided before Obama, but the man and his policies are tearing us apart.
    I am starting to believe the republicans have done so poorly in thier attempts to find a man /women to run against Obama in the election,the only thing they are doing is distroying the party of Lincoln. It boggles my mind that they can not present a straight forward case of what and how they will change Obama’s failed policies. Instead we get a daily dose of stupid.
    Jesus H. if this crap continues we will have four more years of the worst president ever. I really don’t believe the country will be able to take it.

  • Joe

    Hopefully, the NRA will expend more effort getting the word out, and less trying to sell insurance and keep the Postal Service in business with all its junk mail.

    • Bill

      What are you doing, other than complaining?

      • bluqe

        Excellent point. Bitch, bitch, bitch yet if we continue on this path, Obama will win a second term. I don’t have much confidence in the coming election. The leaders of the republican party seem to be satisfied in eating thier young.

  • Radison

    When our guns are taken, then America has been taken. The Marxists have about everything else in their control, EXCEPT OUR GUNS, and that is becoming a reality day by day.

    And who to people turn to as this turmoil grows? To everyone and everyone thing, except to God. America’s departure from His principles of Truth is the chieftest of reasons that we will lose it all. Be warned America, no nation can turn its back on God and survive. It has never been done, and it never will be. “As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord” (Joshua 24:15). America, will we all serve Him, or will we all be vanquished as a nation?

    • John H.

      Oh, grow up, will ya?! You know what relying on God got the Christians in Rome? They became Lion Chow in the Coliseum. If you want to get out of this mess then stand up like a man and fight! Instead of praying for salvation try “Praise God and pass the ammunition!”

      • Padremike

        John H. Let us not forget that the Christians won in the end.

    • Kobra

      Radison… AMEN BROTHER!!

  • JAMES JOHNSON

    This sorry azz needs to get hImiself and his family out of the United States and go back to kenya wher he was born. He needs to stop supressing american citizens of there freedoms and god given rights. obama is a dam communist and left wing muslin. THE NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZENS OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY, THE UNITED STATES. Need to WAKE UP, DOWN WITH OBAMA AND HIS CORRUPTED AMMINASTRATION.

    • el_loco_jp

      Geezuz James, get a spell checker! Although I agree with your sentiments, you make all of us anti Obamaites look dumb and ignorant. A good spell checker is tinySpell. It’s unobtrusive, easy to use and free. Download it a:

      http://download.cnet.com/TinySpell/3000-2079_4-10507622.html

      • Steve Rhinehart AKA Peter Propwash AKA Rufes Macgoofis AKA Outlaw Aviator

        He got your attention

    • Ihatelibs

      I think it’s in his best interest to leave this country, now and fast!

  • http://yahoo.com justanotherguy60

    Has anybody ever thought that Congress is comprised of many veterans? With that said, the pres doesn’t have a chance on stomping out our right to bear arms. If he tries to use his executive powers by bypassing them, he could suffer much more by doing so. He will lose a bigger base of his left wing tree hugging green energy take away our guns. The old saying of outlaw guns and only outlaws with have them. I am a registered gun owner and will not give up my gun, it is on my land, my house and the pres Gestapo regime will lose by trespassing.

  • John G.

    The idiot-in-chief is cruising for an armed insurrection. There is just so much the American people can/will take. Once that point is reached, the cap comes off the bottle. The Boston Teaparty comes to mind. The war between Texas and Mexico does also. In both cases, the people reached their saturation point and then “let it fly.” Anyone who thinks that can’t happen again isn’t just in left field. They are completely out of the ballpark.

  • Grim Reaper

    Obama is just a puppet. Just like George Bush before him. Some of you may not remember, but Bush said “the constitution is just a *&$%#&* piece of paper”. When the money behind the president (regardless who it might be) say “do this, or that” that is what he will do. The globalists are rapidly turning this country into a third world country. It’s coming.

  • OLD DAD

    If Congress doesn’t do something and soon to remove this imposter and fraud he will push this country to an allout revolution. That is why he fears the second ammendment.
    As Admiral Yamamoto told the emperor of Japan when they were making plans for war on the U.S.—–
    We would be foolish to attempt to invade the U.S. we sould find a gun behind every blade of Grass.
    Lets See just how stupid Obozzo is. BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Retired CPO

    It is time to start buying what will be the most precious metal of all come November–Lead.

  • evesin0207

    As a Vet of the US Navy, Viet Nam era, I love this country and have suffered through changes which are abhorent to me. Barack Obama is doing his utmost to turn us into a Socialist state and has the Muslim Brotherhood at his beck and call to back him up.

    What is worrying me most at this point is that his ratings are rising in the polls because there are no viable candidates to oppose him except Mitt Romney and John Doe won’t vote for him. Ron Paul and Rick Santorum would be truer to the Conservative cause but they will never get the backing of the Republican party and running on a separate ticket is a wasted vote.

    I posted a link on Facebook in which I asked others to view a site on how Obama is trying to circumvent the Constitution. I expected a positive response. I got more dislikes and comments like “I am a proud supporter of Barack Obama”. I am seriously getting worried that this illegal tyrant will be re-elected.

  • http://mozilla Robert E. Lee

    America is in a hell of a mess folks. We the People slept through the last 60 years and now it is going to be very hard to rip the power out of the liberal progressives’ hands; We must try to vote out the KENYAN, we must get control of both branches of the legislature by voting in huge numbers [but only vote once]; If this does not happen and libs get 51% of the delegates America must then decide if we have the courage and conviction to defy tyranny. The last straw will be when they come for our guns;; NOW IS THE TIME TO BE ORGANIZED, we will see the moment when they must be used, but we can not survive if each of us tries to do this alone, Omam the Imam will turn the military/guard upon us swiftly to try and disorient and scatter us. Today organizes into platoons and then into companies and think about the ability to communicate to each other, cell phones will not work;; get a HAM RADIO operator involved.

    • mguy

      You are so right, but it won’t be easy to get organized. Too many loose lips and too many
      “sunshine patirots” out there. But it is coming, if not this year, in the not too far future.
      They don’t want their “masiah” to get robbed of his office as “prez”.

  • mguy

    He wants to take out the second amendment so if he loses the election and “his” people riot as they usually do when they don’t get their way, we won’t be able to defend our self. And it will be easy to keep us in line, if he does win.

  • Ihatelibs

    No worry,

    Jigabama will be eliminated before the amendment.

  • Barbara Simpson listener

    Maybe if Dumbo OBummer try yo gut the 2nd Amendment IFFFF he gets that 2nd term it will boomerang right back at him.Let him be held responsible for his marxist actions

  • http://www.charter.net HTCM USN James Graham

    THE PRESIDENCY
    SOME WILL APPRECIATE THIS AND SOME WILL NOT.
    HOWEVER, ALL OF IT IS TRUE..
    After two years of Obama …
    Here’s your change!
    January 2009 TODAY % chg Source
    Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S. $1.83 $3.44 84% 1
    Crude oil, European Brent (barrel) $43..48 $99..02 127.7% 2
    Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel) $38..74 $91..38 135.9% 2
    Gold: London (per troy oz.) $853.25 $1,369.50 60.5% 2
    Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL $3.56 $6.33 78.1% 2
    Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL $9.66 $13..75 42.3% 2
    Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. Fob $13..37 $35..39 164.7% 2
    Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall 7.6% 9.4% 23.7% 3
    Unemployment rate, blacks 12.6% 15.8% 25.4% 3
    Number of unemployed 11,616,000 14,485,000 24.7% 3
    Number of fed. Employees 2,779,000 2,840,000 2.2% 3
    Real median household income $50,112 $49,777 -0.7% 4
    Number of food stamp recipients 31,983,716 43,200,878 35.1% 5
    Number of unemployment benefit recipients 7,526,598 9,193,838 22.2% 6
    Number of long-term unemployed 2,600,000 6,400,000 146.2% 3
    Poverty rate, individuals 13.2% 14.3% 8.3% 4
    People in poverty in U.S. 39,800,000 43,600,000 9.5% 4
    U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings 5 9 n/a 10
    Present Situation Index 29.9 23.5 -21.4% 11
    Failed banks 140 164 17.1% 12
    U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate 89.76 82.03 -8.6% 2
    U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions 1,575.1 1,865.7 18.4% 13
    U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions 8,310.9 8,852.3 6.5% 13
    National debt, in trillions $10..627 $14..052 32.2% 14

    Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our entire nation’s history.
    Over 27 times as fast. Metaphorically speaking, if you are driving in the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane.
    27 times faster, it would be doing 7,555 MPH!
    Sources:
    (1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau; (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. Of Labor;
    (7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC;
    (13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury
    So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can’t think of anything? Don’t worry. He’s done all this in 29 months — so you have one year to come up with an answer.Every statement in this email is factual and directly attributable to Barrack Hussein Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record and completely verifiable.

    EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS…
    I WONDER HOW MANY WILL FORWARD THIS ?
    “You can’t fix stupid, but you can vote it out.” ‘In God We Trust!’

    • Red

      He ran on a platform to “transform (destroy) the government of the United States of America” and he has done exactly that. Why did people vote to destroy their own government? Couldn’t have been from deceit and deception. Obama was straight forward and open about his intent. Now, we have one last chance to save our constitutional Republic, but rather than pick the most capable and experienced candidate to do that, the air is filled with needless personal bashing that only benefit Obama.

  • Jerry Morgan

    Everything Obama has done since he took office was taken right of Hitler’s Play Book. I can’t think of a single thing he’s done in support of The Constitution. If he is reelected, all I can say is buy more guns, plenty of ammo and hide it. There will be a day when you will wish you had. It is rumored George Soros and company is behind the recent purchase of the major gun manufactures. Good way to cut us off from weapons. Just buy and control the makers. When the time comes, close the manufacture’s leaving us without guns or ammo.

  • Eli Jones

    Hey Cowboy, I keep getting your messages saying that I am posting too fast. I got one on the first post that I have written in days on your boards. Most recently this morning 2-12-12 on the article about Obama’s assault on religion. If you don’t want me posting, just have the guts to say it and I will post elsewhere. Sad that a Conservative media acts like they are on par with the Huff and Puff.

    • Windrinker

      Eli, this is something that is happening to everyone. I have had it happen to me this morning several times.

      Just hit your “back arrow” to get rid of the “posting too fast” page. Wait a few minutes, your post is still there ready to upload again.

  • John H.

    Its no wonder Obama and his thugs get away with the stuff they do, the way you people blather about this stuff. The 2nd Amendment was the first amendment in the list as originally written, but ended up as 2nd in the final document because of political infighting at the Constitutional Convention. The Founders recognized that it was the most important of the original 10, because without it, Citizens have no means of preventing a tyrant from taking over the government and ending our liberties.

    The reason this country succeeded and became the greatest nation in the history of man is because citizens had the means to stand up against tyranny and oppression. Without the 2nd Amendment, there will be no freedom of speech, or freedom of religious worship, or protection from illegal search and seizure, or any of the other freedoms we enjoy. We will end up not being any better than Red China, or Soviet Russia, or worse still, Iran or Syria.

    I believe it was Jefferson who said the Tree of Liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots. Think about that. You can either stand up to tyranny and fight, or you can slink away with a whimper like a whipped dog. It is up to us.

  • Sam

    When you read all the mindless slander on this blog, it is no wonder Obama got 60 million votes. More damage is done by these lies than the Obama millions, because they show the independent voter that we are a bunch of right wing idiots. Makes no difference if these remarks are true, or false, the intent is to discredit the Republican candidates. These are the same people that yell and scream about a Muslim in the White House, yet they spew venom upon decent honorable people, sad. Beat people fair and square with facts, not a bunch of madeup BS.

  • Andrew E. Ranhosky

    What is going on in the White House has come to the point of ridiculousness, and the more that I think about it, I just have to laugh at the situation, or at least chuckle, Ha!!
    Not too long ago, as I watched President Obama being interviewed by NBC’s Matt Lauer, I was shocked to hear what President Obama’s answers were to the questions that were being asked of him. As a matter of fact I thought that I was hearing things. I came off my chair in an instant with no effort at all, and I’m seventy three years old. Ha! Now, here is what I heard the President state: “Well, it turns out our Founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change that I would like, sometimes.” I say not “sometimes”, Mr. President, but all the times since you have been in office. Yes, President Obama, and this is the reason that millions of Americans are against your administration’s Socialistic thought processes. In other words, the so called “change” that you originally promised the American populous, was definitely not for the welfare of every United States Citizen if you were actually considering our Constitution in the first place. Well folks, if you had any good thoughts about President Obama in the past, and thought that the Conservatives were wrong for their attitude about the Liberal party, you have to be from another planet out in space somewhere.
    What is it going to take for all of you out there to realize that this President is nothing more than a Socialist and that goes for his whole administration. One thing that I am sorry for are the ones that voted for this egotistical forgery. As a matter of fact, Obama set up his administration with those who were affiliated at some time or other with the Socialist party and/or the Communist party. He didn’t even go through Congress to have them appointed as past presidents have done. Obama didn’t care about the way things should be taken care of in the proper order. His only concern was to manipulate “WE THE PEOPLE” inch by inch and yard by yard into a European Socialist Country. Go to Google.com for Obama’s viewpoint on religion – punch in “Obama Mocks The Bible”. As a matter of fact, when he first took office, and started to push his Socialistic “Health Care Bill”, he stated: “What’s wrong with this health care bill, the Canadians and the Europeans have it.”
    At this point, I would like to ask all of you one main question, and that question is, how many of you have lost family members in wars to keep you, me and our families alive and safe from the radical nuts that have tried to tear the world apart??? Do you now get the drift of what I’m saying above, or do you think that you still think that you are correct. Our troops fought together, ALL races and colors, to fight for the greatest country that was ever created by our Lord in human history. If you still persist in backing this Socialistic administration, then please think about leaving the United States of America and going to some other Country, or maybe Mars would be a better consideration.
    President Obama, you do not have the right to force your Chicago mob’s known history of tyranny on the American people. Leave our society to the United States, and you and your administration get out of America!!
    LOVE IN CHRIST
    REV. ANDREW E. RANHOSKY

  • Roscoe Bonifitucci

    Obama is NOT to be trusted. His words do not have integrity. He smiles to one’s face and lacks truth. He is a dictator wannabe and must be driven from office at the first available opportunity. His current actions are treasonous and he should be impeached from office to protect America and her people. May God save America and the Free World.

    He uses illegal votes to game our system. He is a communist raised by communists.

    • Tudor

      I believe Charles Krauthammer said it best. Don’t listen to what Obama says, just look at what he does or has done in order to see what his real intent is.

      People need to get the word out to everyone that this election is the most important in our lives and the lives of future generations in this country. It is not an election of Democrats and Republicans but an election in choosing Capitalism or Socialism.

      Obama has indicated that if he wants to pass something, he will just sign it into executive order, which tells me that he will go around Congress every chance he gets if he is re-elected as he will have nothing to lose.

      It is critical that he must be voted out. It is also critical for the Senate to revert back to a majority for Republicans which would get Reid out of his role as Senate Majority Leader because if BHO gets re-elected and the Republicans control both Houses, they could actually impeach him if he usurps his authority. Right now, Reid would never allow that to happen based on his past actions.

  • Mannafeast

    All the written debate can do, is accomplish nothing in protecting our God Given Rights.
    Personal Responsibility and participation becomes the only means inwhich our founding fathers gave us to defend those Rights. Faced with the ever growing threat of losing those rights, especially the single most important right of self and citizen defense that secure all those rights is a matter not to be taken lightly. The following links should give you a greater understanding
    of the founders intent, after that it becomes your commitment, driven by the responsibility of personal participation.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RgLEGibyXs
    http://modernmilitiamovement.com/
    http://www.WellRegulatedAmericanMilitias.com

  • http://America. American Citizen

    we The TRUE AMERICAN people MUST make VERY sure that he does NOT get a SECOND TERM.

  • Friend of John Wayne

    I have read a lot of every ones thoughts and it seems most of you are scared? Except for the vets who have more fight left in them. What’s wrong with you people? This is OUR fight. We can not let the men and women who have died for this country in whatever war they were in down. It’s time to get mad, get mean and be ready to fight for what is right. You have to be ready to get hit but get right back up and hit them dang commies again harder. Nobody else is here to help us so I suggest you all put your balls back in your pants, straighten up, pick you as* away from that stupid liberal tv set and get ready for the biggest fight of our lives. If we lose, then you can go hang your head and mope. Me, I’m not a loser, I intend to if it comes to this to defend my land. What do you think guys like Patton, Eisenhower, Reagan,Nimitz, and John Wayne would say? We better not let them all down.
    Hurt bombs as my boxer Dad called them. Be prepared, be ready and keep your powder dry.
    Dig in.

    • Steve Rhinehart AKA Peter Propwash AKA Rufes Macgoofis AKA Outlaw Aviator

      Im a Viet Nam vet and still have a little fight left but I am scared. We are in a cold war and anyone who says he is not scared in any kind of war is either a lier or a fool. I probubly wont live long enough to see the long term effects but I dont want to see the country fall. Yes I am scared. We have plenty of wars going on without fighting with our own government.

      • Friend of John Wayne

        If you weren’t scared, you wouldn’t be a man, probably a man with responsibilities like the rest of us. If your nearby, I know a few who WILL cover your back door.
        Be prepared.

  • Harold Clark

    The picture says it all, “a little arrogant, conceited socialist’. With 80 million people who own fire arms, that would be a lot of erasing.

  • Platoon Sergeant Chee

    Get back in formation….

  • RHSchumann

    Why does the NRA lie so much? What indications are there to assume that Obama wants to do away with the 2nd Amendment? In addition, it is not up to the President to change the Constitution or any of the amendments. That’s up to Congress and even with a Democratic majority Congress will never do such a thing.
    That said, it is a no-brainer that certain weapons should be outlawed and that we must find a better way to control the sale and registration of weapons. But registration does not mean the same as taking our weapons away – unless one has no confidence in our Democratic form of government.
    Which the NRA apparently doesn’t have.

    • http://mozilla Robert E. Lee

      Are you for real;; when has Omam the Imam given a damn about our constitution;; you are the problem, FOOLS CAN NOT HELP CORRECT THE OBVIOUS.

    • setpoint

      Obama will simply do what he wants, ignoring constitutional mandates such as he has done with his appointments of czars and changing laws by executive orders rather than passing them through congressional votes. He is a dictator at heart and this is becoming very apparent as time goes on. He is a maverick who blatantly does what he wants to do to change this country. His vision for America is so twisted that an average person would find it way out of synch with what are our traditions and sacred values. Right now he is ignoring the will of the people regarding their religious convictions, just like a shuck and jive artist, who veru cleverly tells you one thing and in the end does the other. Proof? Bart Stupak of Michigan . . . remeber the meeting on Air Force 1 when he promised Stupak he would never allow abortion to be a “public policy”? He made a fool out of Stupak and Ben Nelson and is doing exactly the opposite of what he promised them. Stupak and Nelson took the bribe and Obama proves himself the liar! That is heavy duty shuck and jive. He is up for a rude awakening as are all his Chicago thugs and communist associates come November 2012. That date cannot come too soon for me and a host of Americans.

      • Arney

        He is setting himself up to be Dictator of the Muslim Socialist (former U.S.A) States of America.

    • Arney

      Two words, EXECUTIVE ORDER, can change any law they damned well please!

    • donald

      Obviously your are not paying attention to what obama and holder are doing and saying. Which is the same scenario that got obama elected!

    • dntmkmecomovrther

      @rhschumann: Your level of utter ignorance surpasses my comprehension. If you truly can not see through all the smoke of Operation Gun Runner, Fast n Furious, Brady Bills, etc. then you are either blind, deaf, stupid or all three. And don’t even begin to tell us that ‘certain’ weapons should not be able to be owned. If the government has nothing to fear, then what’s the problem? If I want to own a MaDeuce, what’s that to you? If I want to own a car that can do 150mph, what’s that to you? …or are you just one more of those elitists who think they know what is best for everyone else? Freedom is for all of us peckerwood.

    • jim

      Schumann your as crazy as the Mad Hatter if you believe what your typing ! Get a grip on reality & look at their past voting record/ what they have said in speeches.

    • rebel

      RHSchumann, just wondering, if you keep repeating the lie of a “Democratic” form of government, are you believeing your own doublespeak?….This is a Republic, and the true form is a Republican form of government. BTW, just because it says “Republican” doesn’t mean party either. Durning the day’s of our Founding Fathers, there was NO such thing as a “two-party””left or right”, its a game the freaks like to play, they use the “right, left””two-party” in order to accomplish their agenda..an has been used for almost 200 years,, and has been used to divide the masses, you know, “A house divided, cannot stand” as Lincoln so quoted as saying. And as you can see, it works well for the NWO freaks…

  • Sirwizard

    We could choose to become England or Australia. We could vote for Mr. Obama and dutifully turn in our guns. We could be sheep. We could be stupid. Somehow, I don’t think the majority of Americans are wired that way. ANYONE that seriously wants to take away American’s privately owned firearms will end up with a SERIOUS disagreement, and I can’t describe how hard it was to UNDERSTATE this. Yes, Mitt Romney is Obama Light, but if he’s the nominee, I’ll vote for him. But then, I’ll vote for my goldfish before I’ll vote for Obama. Some of you will stay home if your candidate doesn’t win. Bad idea, buster. POUTING is not an option that will get Obama out of office. Third party? Not now. Stop the Socialists first.

    • Arney

      Do you really think we have any say in who is going to succeed Obama? The powers that are controlling our country gave the presidential Electors to vote however the choose. They don’t give a rat’s a$$ how the Electorate, (WE) voted. We don’t vote for the candidate, we vote for those hand-picked puppets who have already chosen (by statistical scenarios), who is the winner.

  • Arney

    What makes anyone think that the “O” hasn’t already started de-construction of our Constitutional Rights and renamed them “Privileges” instead? As we all know, all privileges are revokable and nullifiable. That is what the Bilderbergers and the Council on Foreign Relations have been after since the days of FDR.

  • http://CowboyByte Salty Sailor

    Greg you are assuming Harry Reed has any power left after the 2012 election. When you talk about Mitt GET YOUR DAM FACT RIGHT ! you need to go ask anyone that work’s at Staples what Mitt did for them. The facts are he turned 2 stores into hundred’s all over the U.S and a hand full of employee’s into thousand’s. Yes Greg there are Co. to big to fail , but some do and when that happens they either down size and loose a few employees or close up shop and then all employees are lost. I worked for one of those Co. that refused to downsize Two years later they closed the door’s an all there employees were lost., so take your choice some or all you can’t have it bouth ways. To put it in another way i will say I will take the man you say like’s to fire over that hunk of s–t we have in the White House now…

  • Old Veteran

    President Obummer does NOT HAVE ANY POWER TO NULLIFY OR MODIFY ANY PART OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS. The bill of rights were written FOR THE PEOPLE TO PROTECT THEM FROM SUCH A MOVE AS OBUMMER IS TRYING TO DO. Look at the total bill of rights, which one would be first to “erase”? If one of the rights are erased, what’s to stop the erasure of all the rights? This “Ding Dong” gutter lawyer will not be re-elected. He honestly believes that ALL AMERICANS are IGNORANT and STUPID.

  • Richard Vandervort

    We The People can not allow any candidate to be voted in by what they say on the campaign trail. We have to be informed of their track records from the past to determine what they’ll do in the future.
    We can not allow any name to being placed on the voters ballot without a full verification of eligibility including incumbents in office now. In Georgia we’ve seen how the court can be corrupted by pressure from the White House. The Judge’s findings on eligibility came out as Obama’s eligibility as a natural born citizen was vested by the voters who cast their vote for Obama. I say that this is a false judgement because no one can determine what the vote count may have been had the public known of his ineligibility to running on the ballot.
    When it comes to the second Amendment rights the only reason behind it’s removal is because government fears an armed public that can fight back to defending it self.
    If you want to see just a small part of what this administration is about goggle Agenda 21 and see what Obama signed on to with the UN Pack and if it doesn’t shake you up nothing ever will.
    What’s in store for America isn’t going to be a racial matter because none of us will be safe unless your part of the 1% at the top.

  • Jack in Texas

    Simple answer to a simple question………………..

    The 2nd Amendment is all that stands between us and “Communityism”(AKA: Communism)!

    If this amendment is removed, then, all the regime will have to do is “Come and get them”, and I don’t think that the regime has enough “folks” to accomplish that!

  • http://skyweb upper

    If our so called leader wants to remove the second amendment ,lets start at the White House and remove all the guns that his security has for 6 months and see how its working. Let him set a example for a change.

  • http://mozilla Robert E. Lee

    AMERICA IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE;; LOOK AT THE SIMPLE FACT THERE ARE FOOLS ON THIS SIGHT being allowed to display their ignorance and sheeple mentality. I n some other Marxist country [Venezuela], these idiots would be made czars.

  • big papa

    We all need to join forces we have about 30 groups all fighting for the same thing freedom we need the leaders of all of these groups to meet and develope a plan of action.

    • http://COWBOYBYTE SQUEAK

      big papa, you need to give more information, when,where, how !

  • http://COWBOYBYTE SQUEAK

    Once Romney is elected{ maybe } president , you can bet he will let everyone know he will do as he please, change the laws, pass whatever he desires & the hell with the American people, they tell us what we want to hear & once elected then the hell with us, now isn’t that what happens ???? GO NEWT !!!

  • Arney

    You, Mr Webmaster, are in F*cking bed with liberals. CENSORSHIP, CENSORSHIP, CENSORSHIP, CENSORSHIP, CENSORSHIP,

    • Friend of John Wayne

      I agree. Watch out for the red dot.

  • rebel

    There is NO provision in the 1787 Constitution for the united state of America, that a “president”, judge, supreme court, or world-leaders can suspend the Constitution nor any Amendments and Articles there of, legally or lawfully!
    Nor is there any provision that would empower a “president” to declare martial law. Martial law doesn’t exist under the Constitution.
    Nor is there a provision in the Constitution that states that Executive Orders and Presidential Decision Directives are law, NO, they are not law and we the people do NOT have to obey them!
    NO Tready signed with the UN(which we cannot sign a tready with, its an Organization, NOT a Nation) or any other Nation canNOT supercede the Constitution. A Tready actually MUST obey the Constitution, for the Constitution is SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND! If a Tready, law or act is either un-Constitution or repugnent to the Constitution is nullified, voided and inoperative! Any Sovereign state in the Union, can repeal any an all federal laws and acts! i.e Obammycare, NDAA, Patriot Act, NAFTA/GATT can be repealed by a sovereign state.
    I’m just gonna throw this in, it needs to be seen and put out there.
    The ‘President” does NOT have the authority or Constitutional power to make law or change law or violate the Constitution by Executive Orders or Presidential Decision Directives-i.e, Clinton’s PDD-25 in which he assumes control over deployment of our Military to UN “peacekeeping” missions as Commander-in-Chief. A “President” does NOT automatically become Commander-in-Chief, he/she only becomes Commander-in-Chief when and only when Congress declares war!

    Lies have been told to the citizens of the USA for over 200 years, the doublespeak has been hawked and propagated by the controlled media and by many “patriot” talk shows and articles, the writting above this, is the truth that the global Cabal doesn’t want you to know. Read the 1787 Constitution, learn it and learn the truth. Don’t just “look” at the Constitution, research it and read the Federalist Papers as well.. The only way you’ll know if you have the right Constitution, the 13th Amendment will be in it. type in, Constitution FOR the united states of America.
    The only way the Constitution can be brought down, is if WE THE PEOPLE ALLOW THEM TO DO SO!

  • Wa Fleet

    ‘Communist President Oby dies in the library – from a fearful bludgeoning with a candle stick!’
    Thank goodness he wasn’t shoot – now the progressives can concentrate on eliminating candle stick paraphernalia and leave the second amendment alone!

  • faye

    Obama should be impeached along with his brown nosers Reid Pelosi and those muslims get rid of this trash

    • http://COWBOYBYTE SQUEAK

      Faye, We should include Hillary also…she knows a lot more about Obama then she is letting on…when she was campaigning against Obama she was the one that asked him about his birth certificate, remember ?? Why hasn’t she come out with it all if she loves this country so much as she says & wants to be President so bad, nothing but a bunch of liars, socialists for their own self gain !! She can run all she wants , she will never make it, too much baggage & Americans are fed up with them also!

  • Charles Newbury

    Obama has to go in November or this country will go down the tubes forever.He is nothing but a socialist pig and HAS to be replaced in November 2012 !!!!!!!!! If you want your kids and grandchildren to have the same America as you had, you have to vote against Obama in November of this year and throw him out of office!!!!!! How many of you hunters don’t want to be able to hunt with your sons anymore. If Obama stays in for 4 more years you will lose that right and many more !!!!

    • Richard Vandervort

      Charles,
      Then idea for passing on the same country to some point is alright but I’d like to think that the real goal is to pass on a better America then what we have today.
      We as a nation have beed far to lax in the ways of keeping government in check and now God willing we’ll awaken this nation to make the correction needed to the removal of all the corruption while restoring our constitution that made this the greatest nation on earth.
      If we don’t stop this government and it’s corruption now there may not be a tomorrow left to doing it.

  • Eli Jones

    I agree with this writer’s perception that Obama is out to erase the Second Amendment. A blind man can see that! However, I would also like to point out to all the posters here, that this so called “CONSERVATIVE” Cowboy media has been censoring ALL MY POSTS that are on their RELIGIOUS articles. Cowboy, what have you got against the FIRST AMENDMENT? Did did Obama’s attack dog Eric Holder threaten you? Get off your knees Cowboy!

  • dorris

    How does OBAMA want to leave ,OUR WAY OR HIS? by that I mean ,paper or plastic?
    OR back up the moving van?We will all pitch in and help him on that.
    Lets make a time————-6am Monday Morning,how many can make it?

    • Arney

      If they take our Shotguns before then, can I bring my crossbow?

  • muleskinner

    obama just keeps turning up the heat on the frogs,one degree at a time. The American frogs think it is so warm and cozy, especially the minority frogs. Soon the frogs will be cooked and wonder, how did this happen.

  • Bett

    ONLY ONE Candidate supports 2nd amendment and to STOP Communism in its tracks by
    restoring our US Constititution! Mitt joined NRA only after application for Presidency to get votes, the other 2 do not support gun laws in record. Ron Paul will reverse NDAA and stop Hillary who is ramming down Senate’s throats the UN Small Arms Treaty. Reagan spoke about the Communist Agenda in the 50’s I saw it on ?youtube.com. Regardless we are going to lose our Sovereignty and the other candidates do not even see it as we head this titanic into the iceberg!
    We must contact ALL Senators before MARCH to stop Hillary and to also tell the 93 idiots who voted against the Constitution they took an OATH to defend to vote right or get OUT!
    URGENT: google 2012 senator contact list and CALL, email as I plan to today!

  • donald

    In a 1948 poll conducted by Harvard University, the bottom ranked ten presidents were Warren G. Harding, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Franklin Pierce, William Henry Harrison, Millard Fillmore, Ulysses Grant, John Tyler, Zachary Taylor and Richard Nixon.

    Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter will soon be included in this grouping.

    In the same poll the top ranked ranked presidents were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt. Harry Truman was added in a subsequent ranking.

    President George W. Bush will be in neither grouping but will most likely be considered considerably above average.

    Note that Harvard is considered an institution of liberal thought.

    • Arney

      Where do you hear these “Facts”, Nixon couldn’t have been on the 1948 worst ten list.

    • Steve Rhinehart AKA Peter Propwash AKA Rufes Macgoofis AKA Outlaw Aviator

      Richard Nix0n in 1948?

    • AZ Don

      Your analogy is correct donald, Harvard is considered an institute of liberal learning (and you can now add progressive). That is undoubtably the reason the two Roosevelt’s, Teddy and Franklin are in the mix. Both were progressives Ted was a Republican until turning Bull Moose, the other was a liberal Democrat. FDR, like obama, saw himself as a monarch and not a president. My one problem with Gingrich is he was and still is a big fan of FDR. Although I like Newt I can not support him as the Republican nominee because of that. If he is the nominee however, I will support him every way possible, including donations. Because obama must go.

      Truman is a difference story. Harry was much more conservative as was JFK. (although JFK is not listed) Both if alive today would be Republicans or at least conservative Independents (as am I).

      However, I am trying to figure out what your “correct analogy” really has to do with the second amendment? Although, I do find the information interesting.

      • donald

        The post AZ Don, was mostly because of all the generic negative comments about obama, many of which also seemed not to reference the 2nd amendment.

      • dntmkmecomovrther

        @AZDon: Don, where did you hear that Newt is fond of FDR? I know Newt and he is certainly no fan of FDR! In fact, Newt will give you a history lesson concerning how FDR’s programs held us in a recession for nearly 40 yrs AFTER WWII. I would recommend you call Newt and ask him about this.

    • donald

      You guys are absolutely right. These rankings are the result of a series of Harvard surveys beginning in 1948, the last one in 2006. Sorry for the confusion. My source is from Harvard “Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States”.

      • Windrinker

        Since Harvard is selling fake degress out their “drive thru window” I would not necessarily take anything they have done to be a legitimate or stellar project!

  • http://www.rightwingamerica.com Markusdecarcus

    It’s good to see that most on this site are on the tight track, despite a
    few cowards, mind numbed liberal robots, and doubting Thomasas.
    I think the best post contained the word “organize” . Alone we can
    be somewhat effective but not as well as if we organize. They ARE organized
    and have been for a very long time. They will use tactics proven through
    history to be effective on the population. The nay sayers will come around
    when their family and/or friends get rounded up and carried off.
    There is not much time and many of you know that. Don’t count on
    politics to bail us out, it is all designed to distract us from reality.

    Get ready, organize and fight for the great country we once knew
    and our fore fathers invisioned ….and of course PRAY!!

    • Windrinker

      Markus, you are right, all this political talk is nothing but distraction from what is really happening. Keep the masses busy arguing about which candidate is best. IF there is an election, hussein will win, even if he didn’t get one vote! Our government has become a “sham” used to fool the people into thinking they actually choose their own leaders.

      I am amazed at the people that post about how they are going to elect this candidate or that one.

  • John

    Just remember- GUN CONTROL is not about GUNS: it is about CONTROL ! Look at every tyrannical government in modern history- Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s Soviet Union, Mao’s Red China, Mussolinni’s Italy, etc. All repressive regimes have had strict gun control on the general populace. Vote out any libs and RINO’S who are firearms control advocates. The liberty you save will be your own.

  • america needs to make a stand

    why cant people see that this is attempt to turn this country in to a communist state ,not anything else .why is it we fought so hard to do hitler in and other communist like that we now turn to it are we the people that stupid,come on america wake up,some communist in the white house hate us

    • Jerry

      NEWT will get all the czars out! NEWT will get zero out! Great job of Mr. LaPierre!!!

  • Armando de Leon

    Obama is an anti-colonialist / socialist. He will sink the US if he gets asecond term. Everything he has had to restrain because of the election will be front and center on his agenda. This man is highly dangerous and will implement “his father’s dreams”. You ought to read his father’s paper on how government should run carefully. Let’s dump the bum before he dumps our country and our freedom.

  • AZ Don

    After reading many of the posts here I’m not sure we are talking about the same article. It seems most responders did not read or watch the News Max video with Wayne LaPierre, he specifically said all the Republican candidates were ok. And he went on to say obama would destroy the second amendment if reelected. Consequently, those respondents who are attempting to denigrate Romney here must either be liberal progressives protecting obama or running down Romney in an attempt to improve the status of their preferred candidate. There doesn’t seem to be much difference. Romney is not my personal choice. However, as I have said hundreds of times before any one of the candidates will be better then obama. Anyone who does not agree is a liberal progressive defender of obama.

    • donald

      You’re absolutely right! (Previously AZ donald)

    • dntmkmecomovrther

      @AZ Don: I must vehemently but respectfully disagree: Romney is NOT better than Obummer but merely a similar alternative. One look at his record in Mass will bring this fact to everlasting light. What is so hard to see here? If the Romulan gets elected, mark my words: 4 more years of living hell…and then, the end.

      • Jerry

        I don’t think I could have reasoned it beter!!!!

    • Jerry

      You’ve got to be crazy or an uninformed educated illiterate, AZDon!!!!

  • clh

    If Obama gets reelected the 2nd Amendment rights is not the only thing we will lose. It is about the NWO and Agenda 21 View this and pass it on and vote these idiots out that want to take our country away.
    http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=H3aCfR8rmrw

  • http://www.ksccw.com Jim Macklin

    Replacement of one Supreme Court Justice could tilt the Court to reverse both the HELLER and McDonald decisions. With Obama’s friends having records of bombing and murder, being a conservative or even just a little respectful of the Constitution and Bill of Rights could be a death sentence in a second communist revolutionary Obama Administration.

    • David in MA

      Then we would no longer be a nation under law,
      we would be a nation under tyrainy (sp-?).
      The thing of a dictatorship…..

      (anyone else getting this message on first post?
      “You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.”)

  • del

    Way beyond time to oust the impostor squatting in our white house. Along with him should also go: Pelosi, Reid, Clintons, Czars, all of the 111th congress that passed his crap and also all of the Rhinos that signed to increase spending and helping to pass the manure which is the obozo agenda!

  • http://deprogrammingservices.com deprogramming services

    What? The person currently at the head of the liberal cult will eviscerate a part of the Constitution if he can? Who would have guessed? I am glad though to see the NRA weighing in on the coming election.

    NRA:
    Never
    Relinquish
    America

    Obama and the rest of the liberal cult he heads are on a mission to destroy as much freedom as they can, and acquire as much power as they can take. If that was not obvious before Obama got elected it should be by now. Those who still can’t see it even now probably won’t ever see it, until government thugs kick in their door to take their computer and burn their books.

  • wildone

    Wonder what Washington will do if 10 million armed AMERICANS marched on Washington?

  • Wayne Peterkin

    I have no doubt whatsoever that Obama and his serf Eric Holder would very much like to eliminate the Second Amendment. However, there is no chance at all that the Bill of Rights or the Second Amendment will be repealed. Obama can try to circumvent it by agreeing to an international treaty, but that must be ratified by the Senate, could not be ratified today, and is even less likely to be ratified during a second term. We, as a nation, are at great risk from the Obama agenda overall, but the Second Amendment risk is one of our lesser problems. Even if Obama succeeded in restricting gun ownership by stacking the Supreme Court, do you really think that most gun owners would meekly comply? Hah!

  • call me Roy

    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • A Muslim officer crying “Allah Akbar” while shooting up an army base is considered to have committed “Workplace Violence” while an American citizen boasting a Ron Paul bumper sticker is classified as a “Domestic Terrorist”.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • Your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend more money.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • A seven year old boy can be thrown out of school for calling his teacher “cute” but hosting a sexual exploration class on a college campus is perfectly acceptable.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • The Supreme Court of the United States can rule that lower courts cannot display the 10 Commandments in their courtroom, while sitting in front of a display of the 10 Commandments.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • Children are forcibly removed from parents who appropriately discipline them while children of “underprivileged” drug addicts are left to rot in filth infested cesspools.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • Working class Americans pay for their own health care (and the health care of everyone else) while unmarried women are free to have child after child on the “State’s” dime while never being held responsible for their own choices.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • Hard work and success are rewarded with higher taxes and government intrusion, while slothful, lazy behavior is rewarded with EBT cards, WIC checks, Medicaid and subsidized housing.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • The government’s plan for getting people back to work is to provide 99 weeks of unemployment checks (to not work).
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • Being self-sufficient is considered a threat to the government.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • Politicians think that stripping away the amendments to the constitution is really protecting the rights of the people.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • The rights of the State come before the rights of the individual.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • Parents believe the State is responsible for providing for their children.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • You can write a post like this just by reading the news headlines.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • You pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big screen TV while your neighbor defaults on his mortgage (while buying iphones, TV’s and new cars) and the government forgives his debt and reduces his mortgage (with your tax dollars).
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • Your government can add anything they want to your kid’s water (fluoride, chlorine, etc.) but you are not allowed to give them raw milk.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • Being stripped of the ability to defend yourself makes you “safe”.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • You have to have your parents signature to go on a field trip but not to get an abortion.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • You can get arrested for expired tabs on your car but not for being in the country illegally.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • An 80 year old woman can be stripped searched by the TSA but a Muslim woman in a burqa is only subject to having her neck and head searched.
    You know you live in Upside-down Land if…
    • Using the “N” word is considered “hate speech” but writing and signing songs about raping women and killing cops is considered “art”.
    Unfortunately, this list could go on and on. Our world has been turned upside-down. We are in distress. Where do we go from here?

  • David in MA

    And, the House & Senate continue to sit on their hands doing nothing,
    obozo is a danger to America, but congress, by law, has the authority to
    review everything he does and everything any department in government does,
    passes, makes as a rule or regulation and can either uphold it or negate it,
    but there is no such activy. Apparently, if America gets to vote in the 2012 elections,
    if they are held, there are many more to remove, from the House & Senate, along with obozo.
    There seems to be many of the new bunch that ran as supportive of the citizens
    movement known as The Tea Party and their desires in government, going along with the “oldtimers”.
    THIS brings the American voter to the point of deciding if they should vote out ALL
    politicians who are running for re-election, not just those in the “Good-old-boys (and girls) Club
    and obozo.

    Americans must realise that the upcoming elections are not just about getting rid of an undocumented
    illegal, Anti-American president, it is about the survival of the Nation.
    I fear that obozo is going to create, or have created, a situation where he will call for martial law and
    essentually “LOCK-DOWN” America and suspend elections, declaring himself,
    The Supreme One, the Mahdi.
    And at that point, America becomes an islamic socialist state.
    And, for those who say it can never happen, it can and will because you think it can’t,
    the thinking it cannot happen is the opeb door that will make it happen, that, is their secret weapon.

  • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

    We the people heavily armed is the only protection that we have because we have a complicit Congress both sides Ron Paul, Rand Paul and Michelle Bachmann are the only three that believe in our Constitution and our Freedoms. Ram it up your-Romney, Newtered, and Sanitorium are against our 2nd Amendment and our want to reduce our debt all three are phoneys and big Government, Newerted sided with P-lousey on global warming (SIC) and tarp, cap and spend, and bail outs, Romney for Romney/Obamination Death Care and said he would have voted for the last two bills that took our rights away if had been in office, and Sanitarium voted for 5 bail outs and is against our 2nd Amendment. Ron Paul is the only candidate to stay the course and the three stooges can’t say anything against him they just tear each other apart. Wake up America and you blacks that voted for half a white man because he had tan skin he is a Commie Muslim who has screwed you like all DemocRATS have done for 200 years get your heads out of your _ss. Ron Paul 2012

    • Roy

      Hi viet nam vet
      you’re right on track I have been supporting onPaul.He’s america’s only and last hope.
      regard’s

    • Roy

      Hi viet nam vet
      you’re right on track I have been supporting RonPaul.He’s america’s only and last hope.
      regard’s

  • http://CowboyByte P McGYVER

    Folks, its all about FREEDOM, & I refer to the United States Supreme Court Case Law, in the case of Marbury vs: Madison……….a short read, which basically states that if any body, of people attempt to make, or ( Promuligate or give birth to any law, that tries to deny you, your God Given Rights, life liberty & pursuit of happiness, or Inalienable rights, you are to ignore those laws & proceed with life as usual ) !! Then if some O’ nutty person comes along to try to take them away, then the Constitution declares that you are the Militia, being each citizen of the US is automatically under committment to FIGHT to hold on to those traditions afforded us through the Bill of Rights & The Constitution. You are to ignore it & proceed with life as usual. Then, when someone tries to take those rights away, we are to stand together to see to it that it does not happen,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,simply put, we need to stick all differing opinions in our pocket & get ready to fight to the death to retain such freedoms……………..all one goal, spells VICTORY……………….lets spend this prescious time getting ready to go to WAR, cause anyone with a brain can see, ITS A COMIN, & I do not intend to be told by any idiot, that thinks hes the POOP, to tell me jack………………………..its time to stand up to the first attempt to control US, & may we all fight for freedom, & WIN. So far, its all been smoking cannons, & noise. But whenever or whereever the first assault comes, its our DUTY by the Constitution to stand together, & KILL it. From illegal raids on homes to imprisoning Christians & Catholics & Jews, & whites & blacks, we gotta be ready to take it back, at all costs. Its that simple, hope & pray you are gettin prepared. All the rest of this jibberish is a waste of prescious time. Get Ready !!

  • Cincinnatius

    If Obama is re-elected, there will be a lot more broken than the 2nd amendment, the entire Constitution will be a distant memory. His intention is to become the “beloved leader” of America, “serving” his children for the rest of his life and the end of ours. The timidity of congress makes him ever more bold and the worst is yet to come.

  • JRP

    Erase you Obummer.
    Come for my guns A-hole,See what happens to you!!
    Most scum bag president in human history !

    • patriot4life

      Obama can have all our Guns, Barrel End!!.. From My cold Dead Hands!!. Obama is a total piece of Shit!!… Vote this Arab OUT !!.

  • denny

    maybe the n.r.a. will spend there money on some one else this time. i shore droped them when i found out they backed the nut job in our white house.

  • Sharron

    IF THAT LOW-LIFE GET’S RE-ELECTED..HE WILL BREAK THE BACK OF THIS COUNTRY!HE’S ALREADY USED OUR CONSTITUTION TO CLEAN HIS BUTT!

  • http://deprogrammingservices.com deprogramming services

    The next president will probably be able to put another 2 or 3 justices on the High Court. Imagine the kind of devastation that will be wrought on our republic by that court if it has a total of 4 or 5 traitors like Kagan and Sotomayor.

    Consider this: it is a verifiable fact that America was founded as a Christian nation; the establishment clause in the First Amendment meant that one denomination would not be an official religion. This can be proven by looking at the Supreme Court decisions Runkel v Winemiller and Church of the Holy Trinity v U.S.; you’ll find more evidence given in a very well made documentary titled “America’s Godly Heritage” (available on Netflix) produced by a group called “Wallbuilders.” These decisions contain a great many precedents that show their validity.

    As a Christian nation America was free, because Christians want men to be free.

    The traitor FDR, who was elected 3 times by a very foolish electorate, stacked the High court with people who had no respect for the law or the truth. That Court made a series of illegal decisions that changed America from a Christian nation to a secular one, and a close look will show that that was the point our republic and our culture started to deteriorate. Bad things had been done before that and good things have been done since, but the overall trend turned downward at that point.

    In the time since then the dogma of the liberal cult has been slowly but surely forced on our nation as an official state religion. Laws are no longer based in Christian morality and they are not based in the Constitution; they are based in liberal doctrine; you know, so-called fairness, social justice, racism-is-heresy, bans of profiling, redistribution of wealth, civilian disarmament, radical environmentalism, and so on. The dogma of the official state church is programmed into our children in the government schools, you know, feminism, homosexuality, America is evil, the white male is evil, and so on.

    According to government edict, people get fired from their jobs and kicked out of schools for saying or doing things that have been forbidden by the high seers of the official state church (this doctrine is typically referred to as political correctness). And there are laws against thoughtcrime; these are referred to by the euphemism hate crime laws, but since the essential ingredient that defines them as hate crime is the thought they are based in, what they really are is thought enforcement.

    Before our eyes our once free nation has evolved into a religious oligarchy, and this was allowed to happen because of corrupt people having been placed on the High Court. A Court dominated by Obama appointees will continue forcing us in the same direction, but at a much greater velocity.

  • Spoony

    Second Amendment anyone?

  • Frankie B.

    Remember what happened to the President of Honduras (Communist) Zalaya when he tried to change the Honduran constitution with out a mandate or referendum from the citizenry?
    ( A constititutional requirement) Yep! He was grabbed by the military and exiled out of the country. I wonder what’s taking the secret service so long to act?

  • reginald zenkewich

    To all veterans, WE must march on Washington and demand that this fraud leave the Whitehouse and face criminal charges of sedition and treason against the United States and the Peoples Constitution. This Obumer is out to tare this country down like the rest of the world that is falling apart. We veterans are the last protectors of this country as we are the OATH KEEPERS and we will fight to protect what we bleed and died for in these last couple of decades. WE along with those still on active duty are this countries last defense against this Socialist Obamanayshon and his czars and appointees like Holden, Kagan, Biden,Pelosie, and the rest of those elected whoare against the Peoples CONSTITUTION. WE MUST MARCH ON WASHINGTON! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

  • AZRanger

    After reading many of these posts discussing the concept of “what do we do now???,” and if you want your 2nd Amendment or even 1st Amendment rights, then one must vote for either this candidate or that candidate, but certainly not BO. Now, just to be clear, I won’t vote for a Communist either, but does ANYONE here understand what truly protects your rights under the Constitution?

    Our founding fathers were wise enough to understand that if one man, or one political position or office, or statute law, or branch of government, etc was to be responsible to protect those rights, that they would ALWAYS be in danger of any of those entities deciding to take them away, for whatever reason.

    The reason that the Constituion starts with “WE THE PEOPLE” in all caps, is that the responsibility for protecting our rights stops and starts with the citizens of this country! We are responsible to see that ALL of the provisions of the Constitution are adhered to by every political figure, whether at the state, or the federal level. I am referring to every provision of that document. If you don’t understand it thoroughly, then pick it up and read it. Study it, and learn just what was meant when they wrote it! It is not hard to understand.

    Politicians, lawyers and scholars will tell you that you need massive degrees and higher education (a Constitutional Scholar) to understand what they wrote, but I say that they lie! The US Constitution was grade written during a time in this country when the majority of the population could not read above a 3rd grade level, and many were only able to write their name on a document, if that! So, how did they understand what was written? The language was written simply enough that when it was read aloud, EVERYONE of a competent intelligence was able to understand it!

    My point is just this! Quit wringing your hands and saying that we must win an election to protect our rights. Our rights supercede ANY election! Our Constitution is protected by you and me, and when ANYONE does anything that the people of this country determine violates the provisions of that document, it is our responsibility, naye our obligation, to remove that person, BY WHATEVER MEANS ARE NECESSARY, and that includes force of arms! Why do you think that the Constitution says that EVERY citizens is part of the militia up to age 45? That causes every man to be a part of the solution, and not dependent on others to solve the problem for him! We all, and that means each of us, is to take personal responsibility to ensure that the provisions of the document are adhered to, BY ALL. And when any politico, or other person violates those provisons, we are to take action. But, not as a mob. This is the point of having a militia to be subject to a Constitutional Civil Authority, and when one is absent, then the citizens are responsible to create said authority, and then take what ever action is necessary to restore the “Rule of Law” within the area affected! These civil authorities have been traditionally called Commmittees of Safety, and every state, every county, and every community needs to form one; and in this fashion, WE THE PEOPLE, are then able to effect the proper restraint on the community that acts as the ultimate check and balance against tyranny!

    So, get up, get out, and get off your duffs, and take individual personal responsibility to enforce the provisions of the Constitution. Believe me, there will be those who will attack you for doing so. Understand this! I mean, they will be willing to use force on you in order to continue their tyranny against the citizenry, and if you are not willing to stop them, then you have gotten just what you deserve. We are now at a time in our history as a people where we will each of us either stand up and be counted, or we will have thrown away the blood sacrifices made by all men of freedom past; and be entered into the dustbins of history. Just another failed experiment in individual liberty. And, all because “WE THE PEOPLE” were too concerned with our creature comforts to take the chance of losing them for freedom’s sake. If that be the case, then Ben Franklin was right when he said; “….a Republic, ma’am if you can keep it!”
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    But, I believe that in each of us beats the heart of a Patriot, if only we can find the means to release it! It will involve sacrifice on a massive scale, because we have been asleep for so long. But each man must determine for himself the path he must take. Just remember that the path you take involves not only this generation, but those who aris ye still to come, and that is the weight of history which each of us must now bear. You now can decide. You can choose to die on your feet with your boots on, or you can choose to live on your knees! You can choose to grasp LIBERTY and take back what belongs to you, or you can choose to let it slip from between your fingers, and live it subjugation to tyranny! It is your call!
    It is your right to choose. After all, you are a citizen of the United States, the once greatest bastion of freedom the world has ever known!
    In the Spirit of AMERICAN Liberty,
    AZRanger
    Molon Labe

    • AZ Don

      What you said here (not because you said it) is the reason this administration will have to confiscate the guns in this country. Your comments are precisely on target. The current president, obama’s, goals are to “fundamentally transform” this country into a socialistic fascist totalitarian dictatorship with him, obama, as the permanent ruler. This should be no surprise he told us he was going to fundamentally transform this country prior to taking office. But the scary thing is the people cheered. Because they did not see what he was going to transform it into. But they are still cheering him.

      I also believe he may have underestimated folks like you, me and a lot of others on this site and other sites like it. No matter what happens and it will start happening soon, we must not give up our weapons. If we do we are done. All of our liberates will be gone within a year. Without our weapons our whole constitution is gone. The second amendment is the adhesive that holds the whole constitution together. And obama knows it.

      Everyone should educate themselves about what has happened in the past when governments confiscated the guns. Do some research and research “innocence betrayed” if you search through the list you will find a 58 minute documentary regarding the killing of 170 million people during the 20th Century. Killed I might add by governments. So all you gun control freaks go ahead support obama you may soon be cheering for your butcher. Remember people cheered for hitler too, and some of them lived to regret it.

    • Windrinker

      AZ, great post. Are you up for the call to leadership!

  • shawn corrigan

    its time for people to rethink ron paul. how do you gage a candidate? answer : the united states constitution ! who follows it the most closely is whom we should elect. that is ron paul. he has proven himself with many years of unwavering respect and honor for the document all leaders of this country gave their solum oath to protect and respect. ron paul is the only one to have done this . santorum voted for more spending and debt ceiling increases ,newt voted for federal lands increases and federal school expansion. mitt has not done well either. paul has been absolutely solid. the only thing people have against paul is the constitution. even george washington said”avoid foreign entanglements” people say the constitution is out of date. search your soul and you know this to be true. restore the constitution and we will restore america. ron paul is correct that the biggest problem is economic, that sound money IS the way to restore confidence bringing abundance back. the founders said. “silver and gold were to be used” the world is FINALLY starting to wake up to this . research each point, you will find that an informed intelligent person will choose ron paul. i am a new paul supporter, i have big signs on my duramax truck , i have seen large sectors of the left approve of my signs. this is huge, this means he actually does have the goods to win !!!

  • Brian

    please all read this!!! WHY IS IT THAT BOHNER AND ALL OTHERS FLEE ANY REMEDY TO OBAMA. IT IS DUE TO NE FACT. FEAR!!! THE ADMIN HAS ‘SOMETHING”ON MOST OPPONENTS AND WHAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THEY WILL MANUFACTURE . THEY ARE J.EDGAR ON STEROIDS. PLEASE WE ALL MUST LET OUR FRIENDS KNOW WE WILL STAND BEHIND THEM WHEN THE ADMIN BEGINS TO TOSS POOP. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS KEEP READING AND KEEP SENDING IDEAS AND WAYS AROUND THE “MACHINE” THIS FEAR IS KEEPING ALL GOOD MEN FROM DOING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. IMPEACH! NOW

  • Joyceann

    Rigarfunkel – you and your ilk would make good Christmas turkeys – you are already stuffed full. Where do you get this crap – we the people can read, can discuss intelligently – and we’ve read the constiution – we’ve read all kinds of history, and if you can’t see the way Obama is leading this country – you aren’t as smart as you think you are. We don’t care who we elect at this point – for the first time in history – anybody will be better than what we have. We are hoping for a true conservative, but if none are forthcoming, we will take what we get and move our president out and on his way. We know we have lots of work to do to rid our Congress and our officials. We let them play while we were asleep. We decided not to do “nothing” anymore because we truly can lose our country. We don’t blame anybody but ourselves. Watch us work. We do fear Obama and we hope we are not too late.

  • http://Patriot jack stuart

    Your NRA member is full of crap! as Obama can not do away with a Constitutional ammendment on his own, with out a Constituional law passed by the Congress and Senated and the Supreme court. This even if passed as your NRA member thinks it will be they would have to go door to door to enforce. All one needs to thnk about is that Europe could not defend it’s self when Hitler rolled in to their towns as they had no weapons and smart people here wiil not let them take away their weapons and will hide if necessary. Such thrash to pront.
    jack Stuart
    hinsdale, ill

    • AZ Don

      It is easy to agree he “should” not be able to do away with any part of the constitution. It is also easy to agree he “has” done many things he “should” not be able to do. He has by-passed congress on several occasions mostly illegally. One example is Lybia and another is the recess appoints when the Senate was not officially on recess. Neither got any push back from congress. Furthermore, the government is supposed to have a budget each year approved by congress and signed by the president. Obama has not had one for over 1000 days. These things should not be able for him to do but he “has” done them. If this were any of the prior presidents I would agree with you. I however, put nothing past this America hater. Every move he has made as president has been toward one goal, the destruction of the constitution. But I hope and pray each day you are right!

      I understand he has just cut the combat pay for our troops. Do you think that is right? He also last week declared the first amendment void by declaring the Catholic hospitals must provide birth control and abortion. Although I consider obama hundreds of times worse then Carter he is taking us down that disarming road just like Jimmy Carter did. He has sided with our enemies and denigrated our allies. Hard for me to understand how anyone can support such an idiot. He ran on him as the guy who could save our economy and bring piece to the world. He did neither. Everything is worse now then when he took office. The only thing he seems to do well is place blame. The problem with that is placing blame and placing fault has never ever solved one problem, ever.

      • Windrinker

        This is an illegal and LAWLESS regime…..hussein plays by his own rules. He has shown us that he is going to do whatever he wants….until he is stopped.

  • http://tmarcum@yahoo.com Terry Marcum

    The time is quickly approaching when the two sides will fight. The divide has become too great. Our country is split just like it was in 1861. We have the Rigarfunkels on one side = Socialist,Marxist, and progressive verses the those who support the constitution. Most of those who support the constitution have served in the armed forces and many of those who have not are self sufficient and well trained. From what I’ve seen of the rigafrukels in our country it won’t take long for the those that fight on the side of the constitution to win when the s— hits the fan.

  • Ron

    If the second amendment goes down the drain, how long before the remainder of the constitution follows it down the drain? The first amendment is, more and more, being used selectively, to find out, speak out publicly against BHO. You will be labeled a racist, a terrorist and a threat to national security. The ten amerndments pf the Bill of Rights were enacted to protect the freedoms of American citizens, take away any one and soon the rest will colapse. Think before you vote. Armed we are citizens, unaremed we are subjects.

  • LK

    There are very few of us who know just what all of Obama’s Czars do, as they
    quietly go about their “work” in the nation’s capital. This listing of their
    names and job descriptions should be educational to all Americans, no matter
    what your political leaning. See who they are and realize what they want to
    do:
    Richard Holbrooke – Afghanistan Czar
    Ultra liberal anti-gun former Governor Of New Mexico. Pro-Abortion and pro-
    drug legalization. Wants to dissolve the 2nd Amendment
    Ed Montgomery – Auto recovery Czar
    Radical anti-business black activist. Affirmative Action and Job Preference
    for blacks. University of Maryland Business School Dean; teaches that US
    business has caused world poverty. ACORN board member. Communist DuBois Club
    member.
    Jeffrey Crowley – AIDS Czar
    Radical Homosexual. Gay Rights activist. Believes in Gay Marriage and a
    Special Status for homosexuals only, including complete free health care for
    gays.
    Alan Bersin – Border Czar
    The former failed superintendent of San Diego. Ultra-Liberal friend of
    Hillary Clinton. Served as Border Czar under Janet Reno – to keep borders
    open to illegals without interference from the Federal government.
    David J. Hayes – California Water Czar
    Senior Fellow of radical environmentalist group “Progress Policy”. No
    training or experience in water management whatsoever.
    Ron Bloom – Car Czar
    Auto Union worker. Anti- business & anti- nuclear. Has worked hard to force
    US auto makers out of business. Sits on the Board of Chrysler which is now
    Union-owned. How did this happen?
    Dennis Ross – Central Region Czar
    Believes US policy is the cause of war in the Middle East. Obama apologist
    to the world. Anti-gun and completely Pro-Abortion.
    Lynn Rosenthal – Domestic Violence Czar
    Director of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Vicious anti-male
    feminist. Supports male castration – imagine?
    Gil Kerlikowske – Drug Czar
    Devoted lobbyist for every restrictive gun law proposal, former Chief of
    Police in liberal Seattle WA. Believes no American should own a firearm.
    Supports legalization of all drugs.
    Paul Volcker – Economic Czar
    Former head of the Federal Reserve under Jimmy Carter when US economy
    nearly failed. Obama-appointed head of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board
    which engineered the Obama economic disaster to US economy. Member of
    anti-business “Progressive Policy” organization,
    Carol Browner – Energy and Environment Czar
    Political Radical. Former head of the EPA – known for anti-business
    activism. Strong anti-gun ownership.
    Joshua DuBois – Faith-Based Czar
    Political Black activist. Degree in Black Nationalism. Anti-gun ownership
    lobbyist. WHAT THE HELL DOES A FAITH BASED CZAR DO ? ? ?
    Cameron Davis – Great Lakes Czar
    Chicago radical anti-business environmentalist. Blames George Bush for
    “Poisoning the water that minorities have to drink.” No experience or
    training in water management whatsoever. Former ACORN Board member (what
    does that tell us?)
    Van Jones – Green Jobs Czar
    (since resigned). Black activist with strong anti-white views. Member of
    American Communist Party and San Francisco Communist Party. Said George
    Bush caused the 9-11 attacks and wanted Bush investigated by the World
    Court for war crimes.
    Daniel Fried – Guantanamo Closure Czar
    Human Rights activist for Foreign Terrorists. Believes America has caused
    the Global War on Terrorism. Believes terrorists have rights above and
    beyond Americans.
    Nancy-Ann DeParle – Health Czar
    Former head of Medicare / Medicaid. Strong proponent of Healthcare Rationing
    (i.e. “Death Panels”). She is married to a reporter for The New York Times.
    Vivek Kundra – Information Czar
    Born in New Delhi, India. Controls all public information, including
    labels and news releases. Monitors all private Internet emails. (HELLO?)
    Todd Stern – International Climate Czar
    Anti-business former White House Chief of Staff. Strong supporter of the
    Kyoto Accord; pushing hard for Cap and Trade. Blames USbusiness for Global
    warming. Anti- US business prosperity.
    Dennis Blair – Intelligence Czar
    Retired US Navy. Stopped US guided missile program he described as
    “provocative”. Chair of ultra-Liberal “Council on Foreign Relations” which
    blames American organizations for regional wars.
    George Mitchell – Mideast Peace Czar
    Fmr. Sen from Maine Left wing radical. Has said Israel should be split up
    into “2 or 3 ” smaller more manageable plots”. (God forbid) A true
    Anti-nuclear anti-gun & pro homosexual “special rights” advocate
    Kenneth Feinberg – Pay Czar
    Chief of Staff to Ted Kennedy. Lawyer who got rich off the 9-11 victims
    payoffs (horribly true).
    Cass Sunstein – Regulatory Czar
    Liberal activist judge who believes free speech needs to be limited for the
    “common good”; essentially against the 1st Amendment. Has ruled against
    personal freedoms many times on private gun ownership and right to free
    speech cases. This guy has to be run out of Washington ! ! !
    John Holdren – Science Czar
    Fierce ideological environmentalist, Sierra Club anti-business activist.
    Claims US business has caused world poverty. No Science training.
    Earl Devaney – Stimulus Accountability Czar
    Spent career trying to take guns away from American citizens. Believes in
    Open Borders to Mexico. Author of statement blaming US gun stores for drug
    war in Mexico .
    J. Scott Gration – Sudan Czar
    Native of Democratic Republic of Congo . Believes US does little to help
    Third World countries. Council of foreign relations, asking for higher US
    taxes to support United Nations
    Herb Allison – TARP Czar
    Fannie Mae CEO responsible for the US recession by using real estate
    mortgages to back up the US stock market. Caused millions of people to lose
    their life savings.
    John Brennan – Terrorism Czar
    Anti CIA activist. No training in diplomatic or gov. affairs. Believes Open
    Borders to Mexico and a dialog with terrorists and has suggested Obama
    disband US military A TOTAL MORON!!!!!
    Aneesh Chopra – Technology Czar
    No Technology training. Worked for the Advisory Board Company, a health care
    think tank for hospitals. Anti-doctor activist. \ Supports Obama Healthcare
    Rationing (i.e. Death Panels) and salaried doctors working exclusively for
    the Government Healthcare plan.
    Adolfo Carrion Jr. – Urban Affairs Czar
    Puerto Rico-born Anti-American activist and leftist group member in Latin
    America. Millionaire “slum lord” of Bronx, NY. Owns many lavish homes and
    condos which he got from “sweetheart” deals with labor unions. Wants higher
    taxes on middle class to pay for minority housing and healthcare.
    Ashton Carter – Weapons Czar
    Leftist. Wants all private weapons in US destroyed. Supports UN ban on
    firearms ownership in America. No Other “policy”.
    Gary Samore – WMD Policy Czar
    Former US Communist. Wants US to destroy all WMD unilaterally as a show of
    good faith. Has no other “policy”
    These are the people who are helping President Obama run our country.

    • http://deprogrammingservices.com deprogramming services

      I don’t remember exactly how he phrased it, but I do remember that Thomas Paine, in his essay “Common Sense,” pointed out that a government dictatorship is the worst form of tyranny, because the people are forced to pay for the means that are used to oppress them. I don’t know how much the American people are being forced to pay for these czars the personal army of traitors each one has, but at whatever amount, it is an example of what Thomas Paine was referring to.

      When you look at the trillions of dollars Obama has already stolen from us and future generations, and you see that he is totally focused on destroying our republic, the natural question is how much of that stolen money is being used to levy war against us. Since most or (arguably) all of it is being used to buy votes and make other political payoffs, the answer is pretty clear: the financial cost of Obama’s war on America is extremely high.

      Keep this in mind whenever you encounter a liberal who pretends to be a decent person and loyal American while proudly proclaiming to be an Obama supporter.

    • DRE

      great job…it appears up to date. I will forward it to min. 5 people. dre

  • Spar07

    Technically, the president does NOT have the legal power to eliminate our 2nd Amendment. It takes a Constitutional Convention to do this, I don’t care what obama or anyone else thinks. If the president had such power, we would have already lost this right under clinton. The amendment contains language: “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”. This is a precised and direct order that NO president has any such power, even through the use of executive order which obama will definitely try to use. Everyone needs to urge their state leaders, to demand our state leaders to impeach this man for treason in that he is conspiring against our U.S. Constitution and that he objective is to overthrow our current form of government which qualifies him for the death sentence. This man IS NOT A LEGAL STANDING PRESIDENT period. He is a plant and people like george soros are funding him to make certain that he gets what he wants, the ability to destroy our way of life for his personal gain.
    It is all to clear as to what this president is all about. Let the last 3 years speak for itself. Weigh in on all the facts as to what has transpired in this country and it will all come together like a hand in a glove. There is a distinct pattern to his activities. Mitt romney wouldn’t be any better. He is a spoiled rich kid who will follow in obama’s footsteps. He is also antiAmerican. And, I don’t care what anyone says about him in support, romney is one person we do NOT want in the White House.

    • http://deprogrammingservices.com deprogramming services

      The President and army of traitors he is currently at the head of levy war against the Constitution primarily with the use of two powerful weapons of political war: misinterpretation of language, and the reasonable restrictions ruse. These weapons have been very effective so far in their war against the Republic, and as the American people are made more and more stupid by the liberal press and liberal dominated schools, the power of these weapons can only become greater.

      Those who have not been indoctrinated into the liberal cult, and therefore have a mind of their own and can see what is being done to the Republic, are the only hope left for the survival of America. Since America’s internal enemy has turned America into a de facto democracy instead of the republic that it is, the army of fools they control has a great deal of power.

      We lack power because we lack organization. Anyone rising to a position of leadership is attacked by the liberal cult. If we want our republic to survive, we need to get organized, and fight back as ruthlessly as our enemy levies political war against us.

  • Tom

    If he does this it will be a blood bath. Alot of good god loving Americans who love their country will die……………..so will all the government agents who attempt to back him. We will kill them all.

  • joe american

    damn if we do and dam if we dont

    obama the muslim marxist has to go in twelve..
    now the problem lies with the gop….. who are going
    with mckie ronnie……. and that will be a bad choice ..

    mitt is a wall street white obama. no doubt about it.
    and you wont see any changes in the near future….
    we are screwed again.. the gop doesnt have the enough sence to run the right person
    and of couse the democrats could dump obama and go with someone else, but
    they are not going to do that.. the so called party of the people is now the
    party of the socialist in american..

    the point i am looking at now is simply. why go vote, and thats the way many
    are feeling. mitt cant be obama hes all ready bad mouth two many people
    with his poor remarks, his rich remarks . the man can say some stupid things
    at times…
    to win all obama has to do is turn the economy around just a tad, and he can
    do that like hes doing now, just lie about it, people believe him, have to wonder
    why.
    any way. we are done. mitt cant get it done and obama is over done…
    just turn the fire up and scorch the country..

  • Klem

    We as Americans must take Obama’s magic eraser away from him so we can keep our freedoms. Why doesn’t Congress Stop this anti-Constitutional Course this President is on????? What are our elected official’s doing to protect our Rights??? Nothing it seems like. Why have an election if they do nothing??? What are we the People to Do??? This President Pushes new Laws through, Nominates Bad People to Hi Positions and What does “Congress Do” Nothing. How can We the People be Proud of our Leaders??? Leadership use to mean something. I think Now it just means a Paycheck for them. Both sides are very disappointing. If the Republicans and what few true Democrats are left do not stand up for our Constitution what else is left. Do they not have children and grandchildren to leave a better country to or what is going on??? This President has Never even proven he is an American and his actions prove he is NOT. Would he be out to destroy America if he was???????????

  • http://None Shagphil

    Bugger, I read a good bit of the website regarding the book about the “christian” violence. While the author is quite right, he is dwelling on the “Old Testament”. The “New Testament” displaced the Old Testament. Thus, the harshness of the old testament was displace by the gentleness and teachings of Christ. This was an about face.

    Compare this to the Islam. When Mohammed began writing in Mecca, Islam was a kinder, gentler teaching. However, when he moved to Medina, his writings took an about face. He went from kindness, gentleness to harshness.

    Christianity when harshness to kindness, while Islam when from kindness to harshness.

    While I am neither a “christian” or “muslim”, if I had to choose, I would take christianity any day.

    • Windrinker

      If you are trying to talk to BUGGER about islam, he has stated that when parents strap bombs on their little kids to blow them up, it is a religious act! BUGGER thinks that when men kill their wives it is a religious act! BUGGER thinks that the practice of pedophilia is a religious act (hmmmmm!) Mutilation, breaking bones, beating or killing daughters, are other examples of religious acts! You know, he is really adamant that is all about, “religion!”

  • Paul

    Obahomo has no business messing with the Constitution and its Bill of Rights and Amendments that he took an Oath of Office to uphold, defend, support and obey IN ORDER TO HAVE THE JOB as President! Impeach!

  • Vern

    If I’m not mistaken any act that goes against our constitution is a treasonous act. therefor changing the constitution or “eraseing” any of it would constitute treason. It also is in direct conflict with the oath these so called politicians took to uphold the constitution. I say hang the lot nof them. Their all liars and thieves and deserve to be treated for the traitors they are.

  • Ben Gardner

    This is one of the reasons why I traded in my Aftomat Kalashnikov four years ago for a Belgian P-90. Armor piercing ammo was getting more difficult to find. I have a barrel of SS-190 (AP) at the ready that will go through anything that Seal Team 6 or any SWAT team in the country that the government wants to throw against me to confiscate my weapons like it was polyester. You must remember that the government will be wearing body armor and lead just won’t hack it. It’s time to stock up on armor piercing rounds if you want to keep your arms next year.

    • Windrinker

      Wondering if they will have armour for their faces?

  • William Swan

    There is a lot of good and bad comment here, but thats the American way.
    My comment is this;
    In an addiction the drug of choice(alcohol, heroin, tobacco, food, sex, etc.) is only the symptom.
    The real problem lays beneath the surface.
    The real problem we face today is not an individual(Obama), but an ideology that is diametrically opposite of the American way of life. The people who support Obama are the real ememies.
    Find out who your neighbor is. Many of them are supporters of this regime.
    We are losing our fight for freedom, not on a national level, but on a local level.
    If you want to defeat the Muslim takeover, be more vocal about what you stand for in your immediate area of life.
    Debate not argue the advantages of capitalisim over socialism. Freemen are not supported by the government, they are the government. Their homes become small pieces of the whole. This is where our country gets its strength. This is why the continued assault on the family is the biggest tool in the arsenal of the enemy. Abortion, deviant life styles, entitlements, anything that is sponsered by government in the name of “we will take care of you” is another way of taking your freedoms from you and making you a ward of the state. Avoid all government programs like the plague.
    Do your own thinking. If it doesn’t make common sense then it won’t work. The govenment does NOT make money. It takes money from those who earn it. And it spends money that is not yet been earned. We can never earn enough money to pay the national debt. Doesn’t that alone tell you that our leaders do not care about the people they have sworn to protect.
    Never vote for anyone who thinks big government is the answer to our problems.

  • Marine101

    The difference here is Romney can be reasoned with while Obama cannot. Romney would follow the rule of law. Obama ignores the law.

  • Larry G

    Re-electing Obama will be proof that the majority of Americans are either stupid or ignorant. Or our election process is totally corrupt.

  • deanwolf

    this is not the first administration to do away with civil liberties and rights, nor is it the last. as long as the bank is allowed to create puppets to play along with false flag events and agendas. if we are to survive as a free nation, 1 we need not to support bank/oil subsidiary/arms producing bank owned corporations and their affiliate subsidiary corporations. 2 educate yourself to the point of understanding who is freedoms true enemies. …… clue… it has’nt been what has been sold to you through a fear campaign.

  • James Maxwell

    Should obama and his minions from hades attempt to circumvent the 2nd amendment of the
    the U.S. Constitution and confiscate firearms owned by legal American citizen there will be
    a revolution that will shock and surprise the establishment. While the anti gunners and Liberals will say we do not need guns and they are a threat to “civilized society” the do not comprehend that it also allows tyrants to take over control of the nation. What they fail to comprehend is the fact the Americans enjoy their firearms and used the constructively and safely to hunt, protect their property from criminals. Legally owned firearms are rarely used in the commission of a crime. When legal ownership of weapons is denied then you have
    criminal and government taking over control of your rights and lives. The citizenship is
    left defenseless from corruption of politicians and criminals. In every nation where
    ownership of firearms is denied you have tyrants and the subjugation of the populace.
    You have only to look at nations around the world such as China, Russia, Germany, Italy,
    and many others thru history. Current we have a president and political parties who
    would enjoy this happening so they could continue their reign of corruption in Washington
    at the expense of American citizens.

  • d rash

    OBAMA IS HITLER, REINCARNATED! Hopefuly, they come to the same ending! SOON!

  • MontieR

    If we do not CLEAN house (ALL of Washington). We have to remove, by force if necessary.
    ALL of the communists (yes members of the american communist party in congress) ALL democrats , or we wont have a constitution or freedom.

    • Libertarian58

      You are right about the Dems being the Communist party, but you overlook the fact that the REPUBS are the Fascist party and both are flip sides of the same socialist coin. Study the Hegelian Dialectic to see how both of them stand for the same thing and have TRICKED us into voting for tyranny either way.

  • Richard Locke

    OK Guys and Gals, I’ve read most of your comments and agree with almost all. As for fighting the movement that is about to take down our country, you have been using bb guns. Now it is time to bting out the big Guns. The only gun that will bring Obama and his henchmen down.

    That would be GOD. If everyone that’s complaining about the current situation would would give five minutes to prayer against this demon from hell God will take care of him. He tells us so and he does not lie. But we have to start bringing him back into our lives and do it now.
    Richard Locke
    Retired “Lay Minister”

  • Richard Locke

    Excuse msp’s I can barely see/

  • Jimbolya

    One more Supreme Court Justice appointed by the acting clown, will erase the Second Amendment. I say we vote for who is nominated by the Republicans, greater probability that he (Republican) will not appoint an anti-second amendment judge. We are in deep S— if this current a–hole stays in.

  • Sam

    Cowboy Byte, I enjoy reading your articles, but I get so sick of seeing husseins face on them, I could puke!!! Everywhere you go on the net, you see his mugshot!! Can you do the articles, and drop the picture of “his Holiness”??

  • Ronald

    You are all missing the point! Ron Paul is a constitutionalist. He supports the constitution and the second amendment of the constitution. Stop blabbing about dems or repubs, and cast your vote for someone who will enact real change, not more of the washington stupidity.

  • http:Windowslive Kcatt

    I agree as to Obimam’s evil intentions and if he’s reelected he’ll definitely override most of our Constitution if not do away with it completely. Him and his Commie comrads ; Holder, Pelosi, Reid, Hillary;;;etc. all need to do this in order to complete the Socialist agenda. And there’s no doubt as to Soros’s part in this nightmare. But and there is a but here guys. We do need to vote even though this whole thing looks to be hopeless. Because it’s still our right and as long as we’re able to cast that ballot we’ve still done our duty as citizens. Right now we’re coming to the time when we all need to take stock of ourselves as far as just how much we’re going to take before we take action. It may look hopeless when you think about this globalist nightmare, but hopeless isn’t in my vocabulary. Hopelessness is what Oboma wants. Men like him seek to overwhelm the populace with feelings of helplessness and stressfulness in order to rule. That’s when they have you. Hitler took advantage of the helpless despair of the Germans. One of my favorite verses from the bible has always been: Joy cometh in the morning.. Don’t give in to despair.

  • Libertarian58

    The Second Amendment is a defense of our GOD GIVEN right to self defense, not a Government granted privelege. If the government can convince you that the Second Amendment was granted by them to you because it’s “in” the Constitution, then they can take it away. A natural right can only be removed by act of tyranny and this is what this government is all about.

  • http://Toyingwithguncontrol Stuart

    Wally Stewart that myth has been debunked by the NRA. Soros can’t get his hands on any firearms manufacturer in this country.

  • ONTIME

    Just another way to interfere with Constitutional law in order to circumvent the rule of law and obstruct justice. It is now said that Speaker Boehner of the house has been asked(by who?) to interfere with the ongoing committee investigation of Isaa and Grassley into the gun smuggling operations by the DOJ and Eric the racists involvement in this action. This too would be tantamount to political obstruction.
    This needs to be a primary concern and openly discussed in order to discourage and possibly investigate those who would obstruct a ongoing act of treason committed by a department agency head of one or more agencies.
    The left is on the verge of major exposure for a great number of possible criminal acts and many involved are in leadership positions that will affect this upcoming election, the left has a right to be very worried.

    Why is this blog telling me I am posting to quickly?

  • oldwhitehair

    A bullet waits for anyone who tries to take away the second amendment, including judges, politicians and the president, whether it be Obama, Soros, Shumer, the hapless Brady Bunch, Pelosi, Bloomberg or any other Anti-Amrican who threatens the second amendment. It should be an easy fight because none of the judges, politicians or the president will have guns to defend themselves when the people revolt. The FBI won’t be there, the cops won’t be there and the military damn sure won’t be there. It will be a turkey shoot for the ages.

  • http://www.townshipnews.org Frank Trejo

    NO ONE IN MY COUNTRY – INCLUDING PRESIDENTS, SUPREME COURT JUSTICES – NO ONE MAY CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION – NOT ONE COMMA, NOT ONE WORD – NOTHING! ONLY YOU CAN DO IT THROUGH THE AMENDMENT PROCESS (ARTICLE 5) DON’T ALLOW ANYONE TO TELL YOU DIFFERENTLY! WE ARE NOT SUBJECTS! WE ARE SOVEREIGN CITIZENS. YOUR CONSTITUTION IS THE LAW NOT THE SUPREME COURT.

  • EdOPLANETOFTHEAPES

    Want to solve all of the worlds problems?
    NUKE the f-kn jews!

    • Windrinker

      Someone escaped from the “freak show!”

  • Dave

    Amendments to the Constitution can only be added/removed/changed by a vote of the people, not the President, not Congress, not the Supreme Court. The problem here is the erosion, undermining and nullifying the effect of the 2nd Amendment covering gun rights, since they can’t do any of the above (add/remove/change). I am an NRA member, it is the gun control regulations that Wayne and the NRA needs to address head on. Should any President, Congress or Court try to completely remove the 2nd amendment, since they do not have that power, there would be a major revolution by the people, equal to the Civil War, politicians know this. Voters need to be aware of who they elect as House members and Senators, they are the culprits making the regulations undermining it. I am not saying BHO is not complicit, but without 535 members placing regulations on it, these overreaches could not occur. Call/write yours, ask if they support more gun regulation, if not get busy, make sure those who agree with you vote. These articles and comments mean nothing if you don’t.

    • Dave

      I made a mistake above on my post, I meant if politicians support more gun control regulations, get busy, vote them out.

  • roy

    Everyone needs to keep in mind. That Hitler gave away (thing’s) like a job working to build his bomb’s, he took the wealth from the Jew’s to do it. Obozo is giveing away thing’s, but he is takeing away our Freedoms (Our Choice). He is Dictateing what we have to do, what we have to buy (green energy car’s), have to buy insurance sponsored by the Gov. All these thing’s are to control your life (take away Choice) and you have a Dick tator, or A Communist ran Country where a few make the law and force it on you. They are takeing away home ownership and putting it in the hand’s of Freddie and Fannie, Gov. owned. Everu thing is to Control you and I. This my friend’s is Socialisum. If you don’t look at the total package then you are either dumm or in la la land drinking the Ovamit Coolaid.

  • http://aol.com Shell

    Reading the comments here, the thought occurred to me that we drift in “no mans land” because thus far no great candidate has appeared and we are left with “anyone” against Obama. That is bad! Even if we loaded the Congress, the Courts are corrupt and Congress has FAILED miserably to take any kind of stand to protect the American citizen. Check out the economy, the joblessness, Wall Street, political failure to police their own kind, seal the borders, TARP, oil pipeline, or any other way to “serve” the legal American Voter. We have a Speaker of the House that is so weak he can’t make a decision and backs down on every issue, we have courts that will not follow “due process” as mandated, we have freshmen representatives who signed a commitment document before election, but who have whimped out the first year in office, we have a president who should not even be in the USA notwithstanding in the Oval Office. It appears we are doomed! The late great USA!

  • Lonetrader

    Well boys and girls who do not do your research. MITT ROMNEY signed and passed a PERMAMENT assault weapons ban in his State of Massachusetts in 1998. Also more restrictive gun laws for every weapon. So tell me again how he supports the 2nd Ammendment. Newt voted for the Federal assault weapons ban. So who is it you want for President?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • CommonSense

    The NRA supported “pro-gun” folks (RINO’s, Dems, Repubs and the lot) for years and making the extremely fatal mistake of not recognizing that, yes, they may vote “pro-gun” in one vote and then vote pro-extreme-liberal-progressive on the laws the Supreme Court passes on guns, religion, free-speech. Go back and research all of the years they backed, supported or donated to Harry Reid. The NRA bought into the scam of Harry (and others) supporting the 2nd Amendment with flag waving, and then failed to believe folks, like me, who looked at his voting history IN DEPTH. Conservatives have been to trusting of the lying liberals for far too long. Now, “after the cows out of the barn”, no real Constitutional Conservative believes anything that any Democrat or RINO says! And that goes for RINO Mitt Romney, too. Do the olde Ben Franklin close technique. Make 2 vertical columns, headed with Obama, Mitt, Newt & Paul or anyone else. Put down what they have down on the left and check the boxes across. DON’T write down what they say or promise to do, only what they have done. Now you will see the real person. Look at the Supreme Court. Do you really think it will overturn ObamaCare with Elena Kagan there? Voted in by Harry Reid who supports the 2nd Amendment.

  • http://yahoo Okie

    It is ALREADY HAPPENING! It has taken me 7 months to FINALLY receive my concealed weapon LICENSE. I took the necessary training course! I filled out the paper work! I passed the background check. Since I had been “cleared” to work in a prison, I thought there would be NO PROBLEM! WRONG! It was seven months of frustration and BATTLE! I was DENIED THREE TIMES, because my “fingerprints” did NOT pass F.B.I. standards….so, I went to have them REDONE THREE TIMES. AFTER the third time I had to travel all the way to Oklahoma City, a 150 mile trip, to get them done for the 4th time. Is there something WRONG with this picture. We have around 70 inmates in our local jail, so I asked my local Sheriff what was “wrong” with our local equipment? Of course, he had “no answers” for me. The truth is they do NOT WANT us to get our license. I tried to do things the RIGHT WAY…….it took seven months of frustration and “fighting”! I was ready to write a letter to the editor of our local newspaper, so people would wake up to the REALITY of the situation. I had started BEFORE the Occupy Wallstreet Movement…..So, if you are going to try and get your training and license you need to do IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The license might “slow them down a little” or I am a SITTING DUCK! .It depends on “your perspective”…but I KNOW who my REEDEMER and PROTECTOR IS…….it is NOT the government! May GOD ALMIGHTY CONTINUE to BLESS AMERICA…for that is OUR ONLY HOPE!
    (2 Chronicles 7:14)

  • Larry

    The truly sad thing is that most of the people that support the SOB Barrack Obama are stupid people but maybe not in the way that you would think. These people are Educated but they believe every word he says even though they know it could never happen they follow him anyway. Some of the people are not educated but they believe his words because they don’t want to work for what they get they want it taken from those that have worked hard to get where they are and these people want to take it from them because Obama said he will give it to them but they will set there and wait for what will never arrive at there door. The people that support Obama are true idiots even though they are educated they still believe the lies that come out of the SOB’s mouth.

  • DeMenace

    Americans have bad memories, Romney is for gun control! He campaigned against guns in 2008, and will ban guns in 2013 if he is elected president! Obama will do the same if he is re-elected!
    Ron Paul is the only candidate who defends the 2nd AMENDMENT and yet he has not taken any states in the primaries! Ron Paul said in 2008 “America you voted and you got what you voted for!” Americans are going to do it again in 2012, put another president in office who also hates the “Constitution” or re-elect the current “Constitution” hater! You all stand up and shout when our elected representatives trash the articles and amendments of the “Constitution” and the “BILL OF RIGHTS!” We have a champion for the both of our basic liberties and America is ignoring him! Well in 2013 when you have to give up your guns don’t blame the government, blame yourselves because ” you voted, and when you vote for garbage, you are going to get garbage shoved down your throat!”
    RON PAUL 2012 the only thing you have to lose is your LIBERTY, if you vote for the GARBAGE!

    • MichaelB

      Ron Paul is not the only candidate that would not change the 2nd amendment, Santorum & Gingrich would also not change the 2nd amendment being even more conservative than Paul. As a matter of fact, if you listen to what Paul has to say about defending our country from foreign entities, he thinks that we should stay out of their affairs because according to him, the US appears to start all the wars we get involved with. When it comes to defending our country from foreign entities and never mind dealing also with domestic entities, the 2nd amendment is needed more than ever! My basic bottom line is this: The first priority for all Americans who love this country and want to keep our constitutional government in place with the rule of law and not of man is to vote Obama out!!! To me, any of these GOP candidates are an infinite improvement to Obama. The next priority for all Americans is to vote!!! Please do not stay home because I strongly believe that Obama got into office in 2008 because too many conservative people got too disgusted or discouraged and did not vote. Please vote no matter what but don’t vote for Obama and I think our country will variably get out of this mess but will improve even more rapidly with the GOP candidate that has the best leadership qualities. But I have faith in the American people who will eventually figure that out when November 6th comes around.

  • Patriot

    I will not be doing any mourning if that is the case; I will be fighting until Freedom is recovered, or I am dead. Let someone else do the mourning.

  • http://yahoo Okie

    They say they are going to take America from “within”……my latest “awakening” was to find out about the 35 terrorist training camps in the U.S.A. Log on to Jihad Muslim Terrorist Training Camps in the U.S. They have been there BEFORE & AFTER 9/ll. Why hasn’t this been “addressed” in the media and presidential campaigns??????????? God bless the Christian Action Network organization for confirming these locations. We even have one right here in Oklahoma, at Talihina. They have chosen that site, right next to a large state park forest in which to “HIDE” when they attack us! Wake up AMERICA!

  • deanwolf

    http://www.rense.com/general7/gw.htm. this is how Hitler and others like him get funding ….

  • http://n/a toysoldier

    All this talk about vthe (P)resident evil trying to ditch the 2nd amendment may just be his undoing. During WW2, the Japanese were afraid to send troops into the American continent because of the sheer number of documented firearms, the estimated numbers of undocumented firearms AND Hollywood’s inaccurate depiction of the no-really-so-wild “wild west”.

    With the US fascination with sporting, hunting, collecting and target guns and the ever increasing number of purchases, obama-bin-laden may collect a few, but most gun owners will turn outlaw and resist.

    In the late 20th Century their was a movement that can still be acccessed on line: VAMPIRE HUNTER 2000. This movement was to convince AL LEVELS of military, law enforcement and civilian gun owners to band together when/if it became necesssary to resist a full and unconstitutional takeover by a totalitarian government. Check it out online if you are not afraid of getting on the obamalite SH– list.

    Granted, there will be a lot of martyrs! Many of us will end up in CC, WPA and FEMA type work camps, (but we will anyway with not enough jobs and working taxpayers to support the freeloading non-productives). A socialistic government cannot long support the dependant masses they entice with freebies that are handed out to get support for their favor and votes.

    I am not in favor of an America-against-King George-the-3rd type revolution, because to try is to die! Many patriotic gun owners would be face down in the dirt, in front of massed troops, aircraft and armor before enough REAL Americans would revolt. Either educate yourselves and others, vote your Bible instead of political promises or be among the first dead or in the camps with the disolusioned non-productives. toysoldier

  • Rustytruck

    Screw who’s in charge, it will be a cold day in Hell before anybody can disarm this country. We’ve been armed for 300 years, it will never happen. Do you have any idea how many guns there are in America? It’s in the billions and that’s only the ones they know about. Too many homemades and illegal guns out there also. They couldn’t do it, not without a war. Foreign powers know this, it’s been famously stated by some of our opponents.

  • noobama2012

    Hey if you want to protect your home, family, food supply with sticks and stones, move to another socialist country.
    We the people patriots prefer our 2nd amendment rights to protect our homeland, home, and family with buckshot.

  • Maverick777

    Looks like we not only need ObOzO out we need to make a statement on good old George… it’s time for some good old citizen orentitation with geroge sense he’s behind the buying up of gun manufactures and ammunition makers as well. Watch your back geroge as your pissing of the wrong people.

    SEMPER FI

    GEORGE SOROS BUYING UP GUN MANUFACTURERS

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1202/144/George_Soros_Controls_All_Arms_Ammo_Makers_In_The_U.S..html
    Subject: Who is buying companies making guns(Remington, Bushmaster,etc)???? For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers.Some of the companies are Bushmaster,Marlin,Remington,DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companies in the United States . If you control the manufacturers you can decide to stop selling to civilians.What a perfect way to control guns. Now if you do somedigging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management. Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS !!!!!!!!! One of the most evil men on this planet who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out.Why have we not heard about this in the “mainstream” media? I would think this would be BIG news.

  • http://COWBOYBYTE SQUEAK

    Cowboybite, what is the problem ??? All of a sudden you are picking & choosing comments that will be on the page ?? My comments are not near as BAD as a lot of them …WHAT GOES HERE ??? Your excuse is do not write so fast, WHAT ??? Another is you already said this & did it twice which is not correct !!! just come out & answer the questions as i do not want excuses or lies !!!

  • susan

    There are hundred’s of post on this totally unsubstantiated rant by the head of NRA so it must be true. Facts of what the president has done to control guns or what he has planned do not count, I guess. Once you elected a black man who is from Keyna and followed Saul Alinsky (met him and was brainwashed when he was 12) you should have known you were doomed. Barry, the dictator, will be elected again because he knows how to brainwash and the swing voters who will actually decide who is President are totally turned off by right wing illogical ranting. I wonder how smart those Koch Bros are if they let Soros buy the gun companies. Not too smart, I guess. Just kept giving their money to candidates. Not too smart

  • TURTLE, TUCSON AZ.

    Any one out there that plans on voting for Romney, they need to watch this video first

    as the saying goes IT should wake you up, before you Smell the coffee, if not were doomed
    The part that confuses me is why would some one that is worth 1/4 BILLION want a job that pays what 500,000 a year

    http://www.kingofbain.com when Romney came to TOWN

    • Nanna

      Turtle: No way, no how, would I vote for Romney. I think we all need to contact the Natonal Republican Committe and tell them to find someone honest, with a “good” business and financial background, wh is strong enough to defeat obummer, and a sense of responsibility to “We the People”, to run as the GOP candidate.

  • gary jones

    The murdering Holder and Obama want to take weapons away from the US citizen and give them to the drug cartels, that killed Mexicans and a US Border Agent..
    Any order to collect weapons and anyone that obeys these traitors, will be stopped with by a BAR as a traitor.
    Obama can take and shove his international treaty up his A$$.

  • Nanna

    Administrator: I have a question. Can you please advise me of the time limit between each comment we make. I don’t remember reading anything about only answering one per evry ten minutes or so, but I may have missed it. That seems to be how often I can answer somone elses comment, or make one of my own, as I am being told I am answering too quickly.

  • Scott

    NOBAMA in 2012 TVP2012.org

  • Ken

    Wake up people. This is no political game. These people are serious as a heartbeat. All communist revolutions have resulted in the deaths (purging) of millions of the opposition. Obama and Bill Ayers have discussed many times the need to re-educate millions of Americans and to exterminate as many as 25 million considered too hard-core to re-train. Most of you posting on this web site (which they are monitoring) will be classified as hard core. You will get a visit from Obama’s youth core made up of unemployed blacks and union thugs. Your families will be sent off to concentration camps (they are calling them FEMA emergency camps) or they will be killed in front of your eyes. Then you will be dragged to a public execution site where you can be made an example of for those who are on the line about fighting back. Wake up America. You are dealing with savages who are a hundred times worse than Hilter, Mousulini, Pot Pot, and Chairman Mao all put together. This is a fight for your very existence.

    • centermass

      Ken, you are absolutely right! Americans need to realize who this enemy is and when they “try” to round people up it will be time to act. The “Bubba Effect” is what it is called when neighbors stand with neighbors. Our military uses this term. The bubba effect is unstoppable when it gets going and the police and military know it. We will have to stand and defend not only our family and friends but our neighbors as well. Our republic is well worth it.

  • joe

    odummy HAS to be erased next November.

  • http://cowboybyte.com nken

    I think if ovomit tries to erase the 2nd amendment, there are enough of us to erase him.

  • http://CowboyByte.com ?

    Cerberus, was the parent company of both Chysler Corporation and Albertsons Food Store. I also heard on the Michael Savage Talk Show a few years back, that G.H. Bush and Dan Quayle had involvment with Cerberus.

  • John Baker

    The 2nd amendment does not give us the right to bear arms. That is a GOD GIVEN right. The 2nd amendment promises that that GOD GIVEN right will not be abridged. Who does Obama think he is, God?

  • Galveston

    Everyone wake up! We need all of the Bill of Rights, of course. If you really want to act solo in defence of liberty, don’t think guns, think computers. Become a trained patriotic hacker.

  • deanwolf

    people….. hello !!!!!! obummer is not the initiator of this act….. This act of tyranny has been going on for decades…. it is good to exploit the corporations…. keep on connecting the dots….. you will find it leads to the nwo elite owned by the banks and why they are doing it . Let us be free

  • dan fro ohio

    just read on http://www.infowars.com that the governemnt now states those people who prepare[preppers] for any kind of problems within this country have a mental disorder and must surrender their firearms to the government.This is how it starts,bit by bit,they will take your freedoms and liberties

  • Bimbam

    This negro is not even legal to be president!

    Why are they not arresting and removing this usurper?

    It is well-known he is not a natural-born citizen. There is irrefutable evidence. Why is our government committing OPEN TREASON AGAINST ITS CITIZENS???

    Now the negro is threatening all Americans against their God-given rights and liberties. This worthless negro is not even legal or qualified to do anything political.

    What is going on here???

    • Windrinker

      There has been a “coup” in this country and our government is now run by marxists!

  • http://Facebook Hemn McClud

    Whats wrong with cowboy byte, Not allowing me to express my opinion on a piece of
    trash who beacme president of this country through bribes, counterfeit documents
    including his birthplace, and financed by many people who are conpounded in stupidity
    and ouright enemies to the United States from abroad and from within this country, This
    president obama is no less than an chronic lier who can’nt be trusted at anything he says
    and whom has self proven this by his previous actions and by leading our country down
    the road to economic and financial ruin and is continuing to do the same to achieve his ultimate
    agnda to destroy our democratic form of government run by the people to a socialistic type
    of government run by a dictaor and implemented by the military.

  • Moe

    Please, everyone, read until you fully understand the second paragraph on Our Declaration of Independence. We have all read it when we were in school. I post it here today. Take a few minutes to read it once more.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–

    As long as we are Americans, we must follow the guides given us by our founding fathers, lest we are no longer in our eyes or those of the World, The United States of America.

  • Elaine

    First time I heard him say (right after he got into office) (paraphrase):
    “RE-REGISTER YOUR REGISTERED GUNS.”

    I literally broke out laughing! Riiiight, like everyone is going to run right down and do that.
    U.S. Citizens will NEVER give up their guns!

  • deanwolf

    BimBam……. why didn’t they arrest FDR, LBJ, Truman, Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes ????? It does not matter ….they are the puppets of tyranny… They have only safety nets beneath them.. They are called fall guys, scape goats… The presidents jobs have been to augment our constitution and bill of rights…. Slowly to avoid panic.. The CIAs job is to manipulate a cause for alarm… to diversify you away from truth through a self serving agenda…..at a cost to tax payers who actually buy into the false fear campaign….. Most put a support your troops sticker on a Mitsubishi… You get me ? There is only one candidate we should choose. Last run he only got 1% of the vote… How sad is that. The others are all tied in somewhere .. Trust me.. and nothing will change.. Even if Fred Flintstone got in … You watch.. Libya, Syria, Yeamen, Egypt are next…. these countries are not on board with the pipeline coming from Saudi to the Mediterrean.. you will see involvement ( procted by the CIA) for the tear down….. The oil companies are tired of sailing all the way around…. At the same time America will be striped of her freedoms…. you will eventually see agenda 21 and have upon you the new world order… Created by the banks elite. And your dads, sons, and brothers die for their war against
    you for their profit and power…. And all along you paid for it. Read son Con. Charles Lindbergh Sr.. See what he had to say on Sept.11. 1941 …

  • n2trophies

    Four more years with oboma or M. Romney will put in the same place; Under the U.N. Constitiution. I would rather have a big dog in this fight. I vote for Ginrich; Pro American; pro Gun; pro Christian ; Anti socialism. He has baggage but the others are being pushed by the news media. Ron Paul Jr. Might be a choice but not R.P. Senior.

  • deanwolf

    I meant read some Con. Charles Lindbergh Sr …. See what he had to say on Sept 11 , 1941

  • robert j. wolfe

    Do Away With The Second Amendment…Hmmmm…

    Well, My Gun Can’t Read…

    And Me? Only Out Of My Cold Dead Hand’s Will Anyone Get My Gun’s…

  • RC

    I have wondered why Romney hasn’t mentioned his stand on the 2nd ammendent during the debates. There are so many unclear issues with him . I really don’t trust him. I’m so afraid it is going to be another election where I have to vote against a candidate instead of for a candidate. Obama is a socialist machine that has to be stopped !

  • http://NONE TOM SANDELL

    OBAMA/SATORO
    YOU ARE NOT EVEN A LEGAL U.S. CITIZEN AND YOU WANT TO SCREW AROUND WITH THE CONSTITUTION AND THE 2SD. AMENDMENT. I GOT NEWS FOR YOU, YOU WANT A WAR, YOU GOT ONE. BEFORE NOVEMBER ROLLS AROUND, YOU ARE GOING TO FIND OUT THAT WE “THE TRUE AMERICAN CITIZENS” ARE FED UP WITH YOUR ANTI CONSTITUTION AGENDA.
    YOU ARE GOING TO GET YOUR ALIEN ASS RUN OUT OF D..C. AND SENT BACK TO YOUR CORRUPT POLITICAL ALLIES IN CHICAGO SO FAST THAT IT WILL TAKE YOUR AKIEN ASS TO WEEKS TO CATCH UP WITH YOU.
    YOU AND NONE OF YOUR MARXISTS COHORTS IN CONGRESS WILL EVER BE ALLOWED TO DISARM THE TRUE AMERICAN CITIZENS.
    YOU WILL BE HISTORY IN NOVEMBER BARRY. THE TRUE AMERICAN CITIZENS WILL DIE WITH THEIR GUNS IN THEIR HANDS BEFORE THEY LET ANY SCUMBAG ALIEN DISARM THEM.
    YOU MUST REALLY THINK THAT YOU CAN DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT WITH THE CONSTITUTION. YOU HAD BETTER THINK AGAIN BARRY.
    IF A WAR IS WHAT YOU WANT YOU GOT ONE. IT IS ONE THAT YOU CANNOT WIN. ALL OF YOUR ALLIES IN CONGRESS HAD BETTER PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE LEGITIMATE AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE TELLING YOU AND THEM.
    ALL OF YOU SOCIALIST AND MARXISTS IN CONGRESS PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT I AND MY MILLIONS OF OTHER PATRIOTS ARE SAYING.
    IF IT BECOMES NECESSARY FOR US TO START MARCHING INTO WASHINGTON D.C. THAN SO BE IT.
    YOU ASSHOLES ARE BRINGING THIS ONTO YOUR OWN SELVES, SO YOU WILL HAVE TO BEAR THE CONSEQUENCES.
    AMEN AMEN AMEN.

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/GaryMallast Gary J. Mallast

    Judging from prior statements and prior actions before he changed his tune to win elections, Mitt Hussein Romneycare will too. Even George Soros (bankrolling both) observed there is little difference between Obama and Romney. If you are really concerned about your Second Amendment rights or any other rights, support Ron Paul. He has the long-standing consistent record in support of the Constitution.

  • Dan

    Sure not giving up mine either..ha..Obama just need try to take them.. He ain’t seen nothing yet, if he try’s anything just wait and see what kind of protestors is surrounding his yard at the WH !!!!!!!

  • Carol Goodwin

    RON PAUL is the only choice to keep our constitution and the amendments intact! The others have their own ideas about how our country should be run. They all have their own personal agendas as well. Dr Paul is the only clear choice as the one who will place We The People and this nation ahead of everything else. We do not have to ‘settle’ for a lesser choice. He will balance the budget and bring individual liberty back to the people. He will give us a republic once again. How many of you would like to take home your paycheck without that big chunk of money withheld for federal taxes? How nice would it be to get the federal government’s nose out of our lives? No one else promises smaller government- only Ron Paul!

  • uwho

    I don’t think there is enough Morons to legally re-elect Toosie, my fear is that he will be elected by fraud such as the 2008 election. Mitt is a mini toosie. And Gingrich will say whatever it takes to get elected. But he is just as corrupt as any them. The only one left worth voting for is Ron Paul.

  • Mike

    This is one of the major tactics that Adolf Hitler used to control the people of germany.
    Obama and almost everybody on the left are doing things as hitler did to enslave and brainwash the people of germany, I say almost because there are some good and decent democrats that love america and what it stands for, not to say that all repulicans are perfect either, but anyone that lables themselves to a certain party should have eyes kept on them at all times. I would just call myself an American who loves his freedom and liberties and is willing to fight if neccassary to keep them.
    I fear that if we all don’t wake up and pull our heads out from our rear ends, we will no longer have the freedoms and liberties that our forefathers fought and died for to give to us.
    This also goes right along with the moral decay of our nation, right has become wrong and wrong has become right, from the way we speak to gay marriage and everything in between. No nation that has aloud this sort of behaviour has ever survived.

  • Kurt of LA

    I am afraid that the ballot box does not do it this time either. There is a sale on rope at a hardware store in my area. My favorite movie “The Hanging Tree”. There are too many fools in America at this time to use the ballot box

  • Cayuga33

    Do you think the Army and other armed forces of our country would actually kill their fellow countrymen on the orders of OBOZO. If 82 million Americans stood with the attitude” to take my guns you must take my life”-what do you think would become of this country? Our guns make us uniquely free. If we did not have that right ,we would not be free!

  • PISSED OFF PATRIOT

    welcome to the next civil war is they try that, if the Americans vote this creep back in shame on them.

  • http://facebook,twitter Justice

    I am a Viet-Nam Veteran. I still have my skills, and i can blend in the environment. When that day comes, When some one is going to steal my “CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO BEAR ARMS, OVER MY DEAD COLD HANDS THEY WILL HAVE TO PRY MY WEAPON FROM MY BODY.”If this corrupted government is going to become a communist nation. That means that our government is socializing with all the other communist countries to be a one communist nation. This must be Kenya Bouy Obama that is starting his transformation. Well i have a surprize for you.

  • William Osborne

    This year’s electioe could prove the most desastrous in the history of this country. There’s no doubt that this election will decide whether Americans remain free. We either defeat obama and retain our freedoms or we lose this election and lose it all. It’s not just firearm freedoms, but such things as obamacare, religion, illegal immigrants storming the country and Americans paying their way, ALL OUR FREEDOMS ARE ON THE LINE! This years election will literally be a struggle for the survival of freedom in America. Obama will continue to take us down that road of spending until America crumbles, continue to make this country socialist and onto Marxist. He will continue to bring in the Muslims by the millions and set them up with taxpayer dollars and do everything in his power to bring Sharia Law to America, along with doing just about anything to eliminate your right to keep and bear arms and throw the 2nd Amendment completely out. Make no mistake, a second term for Obama would spell disaster not just for firearm freedom, but for all the freedoms we enjoy as Americans.

  • William Osborne

    It’s good to know that I won’t be alone if a resistance has to be formed. No one is taking my weapons and I will protect my family no matter what! If you give away your freedoms, just like in Germany, you will never get them back. We have to wake up to the realization that this country might not stay the same, we have seen in the past three years how obama has attempted to take away our guns, ram the abortion down our throats, is attempting now to shut the internet down, Obamacare brought in behind closed doors in the middle of the night so Congress couldn’t get involved. He refuses to listen to the American people and has made the statement many times, “We can no longer wait for Congress, where Congress want act, I will.” Unless he is stopped Americans are in grave danger of losing everything that America stands for.

  • http://n/a toysoldier

    Where is the Kenyan Kandidate’s assumed authority over the 2nd amendment, or anything else?
    Did he not swear to uphold the very constitution that he is defiling as if it were toilet paper, how about at least 85% of our politicians from the dog wardens to DC?

    If these guys are asking for a revolution, they might just goad those who still have the ability to think into a repeat. Of course, te Tea Party types will not litter the parks and streets with trash, urine, dung and condoms: just communistic, socialistic politicians and a bunch of bought-and-paid-for non-produtives. toysoldier

  • LOUIS

    SCREW THE ASSSHOLES IN WASHINGTON……GUNS SAVE US FROM ENEMYS.

  • Kalev

    The Obituary of the U.S.A.
    In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinborough, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote
    themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
    From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”
    “The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.
    During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
    From bondage to spiritual faith;
    From spiritual faith to great courage;
    From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
    From abundance to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence;
    From dependence back into bondage.”
    The Obituary follows: Born 1776, Died 2012.
    It doesn’t hurt to read this several times. Beware of politicians who want to give the masses who don’t want to work–and are living off various forms of government welfare free handouts.
    Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota, believes the United States is now somewhere between the “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.
    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals–and they vote–then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
    Remember, too, that “apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.”
    Please be sure to pass this message on to everyone in your address book.
    As Dietrich Bonhoeffer from Germany in Hitler’s time said, “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”

  • Tom

    when and if it comes I will be standing along side of my fellow vets…………we will either suceed together or die together, tom, 25th infantry, 62 to 65!

  • jim

    NEVER TRUST ANYONE WHO TALKS DOWN TO YOU !!!!
    THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE THE BUM THAT CALLS HIMSELF “PRESIDENT AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF” MAKE ANY KIND OF A SPEECH YOU CAN COUNT THE BOOGERS IN HIS NOSE BECAUSE HE LOOKS DOWN HIS NOSE AT THE WHOLE COUNTRY !!!

  • djw663

    Too bad Holder is on the side of Obama. They both should be held accountable for their crimes against America and spend the rest of their days in club gitmo.

  • Capt. Link Hogthrob

    “Obama Out to Erase Second Amendment?”
    Second Amendment, hell! The chimp in chief is out to erase the entire constitution!!!

  • http://cowboybyte.com mark

    ovomit is out to take over the united states of america and turn us into a third world country. he is not to far from getting just that. romney just another ovomit who believes the same things ovomit believes.

  • Zander

    I love how the politicians SWEAR to GOD to uphold out Amendments and the Constitution and then pull crap like this!!!!

    BUY them while you still can, Romney is no better, they have STRICT gun laws where he is from!

    America is over and done with!!!!

    This is why we need RON PAUL!!!!

    • http://cowboybyte Doctor J

      Zander, remember what the Second Bible said?” NEVER surrender of you’re own free will”! And, also to the Kentuckian, if you are indeed buried with you’re gun, empty the folking thing first, and then, could I store a few of mine that won’t fit in my casket in there with ya, when I’m done with them. I’m planning to stage a “comeback”to finish what we start, if necessary!

  • MSGT JOHN CORREA

    As I continue to warn…. As a foreign-born Muslim communist agent, Mr. Barack Hussein Obama II must be immediately arrested and charged under the catagory of espionage. This foreign-born agent is in fact destroying our country from within, and yes, as a foreign-born agent he does qualifies to be chaged with espionage. And yet, it seems that everyone continues to ignore this fact. What else would you charge a foreign-born agent with that is destroying our sovereign nation from within?

    If Dwight D. Eisenhower were alive today, you can bet Mr. Barack Hussein Obama II would have been executed for espionage as foreign-born agent. What else would you do with a rat about to bite one of your children?

    MSGT JOHN CORREA
    USAF (RET)

  • http://cowboybyte Doctor J

    If, indeed, the monkey currently occupying the Absolutely White House attemps to “remove” anything from our Constitution, it will truely show his ignorance. The rights are inalienable, and a gift from God through our forefathers. These rights were enacted to protect us FROM actions just like this, by people just like him. First of all, he probably can’t even spell, or understand the pluralistic nature of the word, remove! We, then can employ those parts that protect them from us, which. by the way, do not appear anywhere in the document,referring to those pesky amendments. We will be obligated at that time to engage in the part of the Constitutional amendments that requires us to remove THEM ALL from their duties and the earth. It’s getting late, so let this final hunting season begin! Semper Fi! Shoot straight, and keep yer powder dry!! God bless America!!!