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A War With Iran: Rhetoric Or A Reality?

In recent weeks and days, the divisions over how to deal with Iran and its nuclear program have sharpened. The only undisputed fact is that Iran is developing a nuclear energy program, but after that things get murky.

Israel and some European countries believe Iran is moving toward a nuclear weapons program, but U.S. intelligence agencies disagree. Israel argues that a nuclear-armed Iran poses an existential threat, and there’s much speculation in the media about a possible Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear sites.

Are we heading toward a self-fulfilling prophecy or is some of it strategic bluster designed to spook Iran?

Several former and current leaders of Israel’s military and intelligence establishment have come out to warn against an attack on Iran. Efraim Halevy led Israel’s National Security Council and Mossad, Israel’s national intelligence agency, from 1998 to 2002. He tells weekends on All Things Considered host Guy Raz that he doesn’t believe there is an existential threat to Israel, but that there are threats the nation should not and cannot be expected to bare.

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  • Irishmist1000

    Just another way that the insane, stupid, crazy, idiot, dumb, self-centered, POS, bastard, left-wing, progressive, liberal, scum-bag, criminal, communist, traitor, illegal obumer is showing his favoritism for the muslim nations. muslim is all that the AMERICANS have to fear other than the government of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Both the current regeim and islam have the same positions on destroying AMERICA.

    • Hold Our Politicians Accountable

      All of our politicians need to be held accountable including candidates. We can start by holding Congress responsible for not standing up for american citizens that they are suppose to serve.
      What we need is http://www.petition2congress.com/6195/congressional-reform-act-to-fix-congress/

    • JMJ

      We have far more to fear from our own government than we do Iran. Of course, Obumer is really on Iran’s side because they are muslim. Obumer is a true muslim, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, anti-American, mass murderer dictator who illegally took over our country in 2008. He’s working to do the same thing in 2012. Wake up America!! We are under attack from within. It seems like God has lifted His Blessing off America because the blood of the 57 million murdered unborn are crying out from the ground. Do you think God is deaf to their cries? See website: http://www.haasstrep68.com

  • Victor Barney

    According to the Hebrew inspired Scriptures, it is just rhetoric because Yahweh’s two-witnesses destroy u.s., save 144,000 Israelites, except the tribe of Dan(Irish) as it is written in Revelation and more gentiles survive these last days of Israel-by the seed of Joseph(Gen. 48:16), not Judah alone, but including them!!! How else could the “forbidden foreigner” of Deuteronomy 17:15, also being the Anti-Christ, rule over u.s.? Just saying… September 16, 2012 on the Israelite Annual Feast of Trumpets(war)! WATCH!

  • CAllenDoudna

    Resident OBambi wants to finish his lollipop first, but you may be sure most of the Arab governments on the Arabian Peninsula are backing Israel to the extent they can because a nuclear-armed Iran is almost as great a threat to them as it is to Israel.

  • danimal

    We should have blown their asses off the planet when we had the chance during the Carter years.

    • MaryLou

      It was Carter who got us into this mess in the first place.

    • RMF

      AMEN

  • Sue

    Please don’t believe the hysteria. Iran doesn’t want to attack the U.S. That’s ridiculous. It would be suicide.
    Netanyahu’s Conspiracy to Drag the U.S. to War
    Haaretz (Israel)
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/netanyahu-s-conspiracy-to-drag-the-u-s-to-war-1.416523

    …So even if everything else is destroyed, and only Fordow remains, Iran’s nuclear project will be set back by two years at most – and not even that long in practice, because Iran will switch from inching toward a bomb to rapid enrichment of military-grade uranium … Those Israeli planners who believe in an attack have one hope only – that the United States will be dragged in and complete the Israeli move … Sometime between early June and mid-August, just before the Republican nominating convention, will be the ideal moment to drag the United States into war, the planners believe.

    Most Americans Mistakenly Believe That Iran Has Nuclear Weapons
    CNN
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/19/cnn-poll-american-believe-iran-has-nuclear-weapons/

    Seven in ten Americans believe that Iran currently has nuclear weapons, according to a new national poll. Friday’s release of the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey …. indicates that 71 percent of the public says Iran has nuclear weapons, with just over one in four disagreeing. More than six in ten think the U.S. should take economic and diplomatic efforts to get Iran to shut down their nuclear program, with only a quarter calling for immediate military action.

  • http://Cowboybyte Dan Burden

    During the 1967 Israel war, Israel bombed the USS Liberty in broad daylight and did its best to sink it while the Johnson admin. stood by and refused to send help for at least 24 hrs. Finally they “rescued” the ship; 140 wounded 37 dead the Capt. received the Gold Medal in secret [ lest we offend Israel for defending ourselves] does it occur to any talking head what would have happened if the ship had sunk, we would have nuked Egypt, which brings us to the present [did I mention that building #7 fell magically all by itself on 911, and the accepted thought is that BinLaden hiding in a cave with a cell phone ordered the US military to stand down and hit the towers and just to show off knocked #7 down without hitting it] Bush found the WMD he was looking for [wells of mass production] of course Israel was overjoyed we were bleeding for them. Don’t be surprised a “USS Liberty in the Strait of Hormuz” is found and this time it will sink, of course we will look for WMD and find [wells of mass production] and Israel will be overjoyed, the amount of blood on both sides is of little consequence because the warmongers will be happy.

  • stormieweather

    Obamaa** dose not want war. He knows that will put the nail in his re-election. Also high gas prices are hurting right now.He is already playing the blame game. He sure dose not let anyone know about all the tax payer dollars he has thrown down the toilet on his green jobs. My last count has been 5 companies claiming bankruptcy, taking American tax dollars with them. As far as the Auto companies, that’s another big lie. That was paying off his Union buddies and look at their sales. Ford has done the best, at 14%[ no bail out], GM, 1%. Don’t believe they paid all the money back. They didn’t. Obamaa**, sold the stock back and lost 18% of tax payers money. Let’s talk about his money WH*** wife. She sure dose love tax payers money for them long vocations. We all kinds of money to spend on her and who ever she wants to make us pay for too. She is a nothing but a money wh***.

    • MaryLou

      The Obamas act like ghetto people who won the lottery.
      They have no idea how to handle money or create wealth.
      All they do is SPEND!SPEND!SPEND!SPEND!SPEND!SPEND! and BLAME! BLAME!BLAME!BLAME!BLAME!BLAME!BLAME!

  • bevad

    To repeat an infamous quote of Sen. John McCain: “bomb, bomb, bomb bomb,bomb Iran.” (to the tune of “Barbara Ann” which many of you are, I am sure, are too young to remember)

  • DockyWocky

    Here we go again. Obama, as usual, defying Constitutional restraints, while some minor congresscritter calls for his impeachment, qualified, as usual, again, by the introduction, complete with escape clause , and an amendment introducing a semi-official resolution calling for impeachment should Obama take offensive action based on Panetta’s policy statement, because it would violate the Constitution.

    It is maddening to sift through the congressional gobbledegook as the Washington weasels play game after game with one another.

    Nobody is going to seriously bother the Kenyan pretender as long as Harry Reid and the most illustrious liberal Democrat collection of Obama ash kissers ever assembled remains to short-circuit any real impeachment process.

    Meanwhile, Obama continues to ride roughshod, over the Constitution – because that’s what he was put in there to do. This is a much bigger problem than anyone is ready to acknowledge openly. We have been shafted by a criminal gang of 60’s radicals and it is going to take much more than a half-ashed threat of impeachment to dig this crew out of their cubbyholes.

  • Bob Marshall

    Hold our politicians accountable? Frst of all, that is one of the problems. We have plenty of politicians and few statesman. President James A. Garfield: “Now, more than ever, the people are responsible for the character of their congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless and corrupt, the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness and corruption.” Weather many will admit it or not since 49% of Americans depend on the government for some type of assistance what the government does in domestic and foreign policies will be tolerated until we come a Socialist nation and a police state. By then it will be too late! I am afraid we are closer than many dare admit. ” If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization,it expects what never was and never will be…if we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every citizen to be informed.” Thomas Jefferson. ” They that can give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin. In 2007, Brzezinski told the U.S. Senate that the “War on terror” was a”mythical historical narrative,” or in other words a complete fiction. Million of citizens don’t care because of the reason above. Since we still have limited freedom of speech at the moment and i have a right to express my opinion, two books Americans could use in their homes are the Number one best seller, the Bible and The AMERICAN CHALLENGE: What Every American Should Know About Their Country. Thirty-eight percent of Americans given a Newsweek Citizenship Test failed, most being unable to define the Bill of Rights, much less why they were added to the Constitution before it was ratified and signed. More than half failed an Intercollegiate Studies Institute Civics Test. Most failed to name all three branches of government. Elected officials did even worse- their average score was forty four percent.failures were evenly split between Democrats, Republicans, liberals and conservatives. Last year seventy members of congress voted to abolish the present Constitution. what are our children being taught in school today. One thing we can’t deny, there is no mention of God to be found in our public schools. Read from AMERICA’S GOD AND COUNTRY: Encyclopedia of Quotations to see what our founder said, even Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson about God and Christianity. It is easy to believe lie , but is take a little effort sometime to discover the truth. i wonder what would have happened if our children had started learning from The New England Primer, the first textbook in American schools and The Original Blue Back Speller. Later the six books of The McGuffey Readers. The ACLU would be besides themselves. Our children being taught godly principles at the same time they were learning. Heaven forbid! My ninety year old mother remembers McGuffey Readers in her school. Our Supreme courts have made sure that will never happen. America said nothing. I am sure many grandparents remember learning from these great books.

  • Bob Marshall

    Sorry about the FIRST error but that is not what is important.

  • GREENTEETH

    We will be at war soon, I hope we don’t make the mistake of boots on the ground. With our modern warfare no need. bomb the piss out of there military and atomic sites. and not go in to rebuild. let the muslim brother hood gather and do the job. this will drain the mbh of money and bodys. This will help us on that second ront.

  • B. Hill

    Ron Paul says we should sit down with these Iranians and talk things out. You know, he says, we just don’t talk anymore.

    Sound like a good idea folks?

    • awakenow

      Ron Paul says we should FOLLOW the Constitution with regard to waging war. Starting a war means committing any act considered to be an act of war against another country.

      Any act of war includes, drone bombing, using special forces, boots on the ground, implementing no fly zones, and even sanctions … economic sanctions are an attack on another country and is done as the prelude to an outright military involvement, as was done in the run up to the Iraq War.

      Ron Paul believes in following the Constitution. He believes the Founders were very wise and divinely-inspired in the writing of our founding documents … including the specific language in the Constitution requiring a vote by Congress (and the people), a formal declaration of war providing CLEAR rationale for going to war … something that hasn’t been done since WW2, as well as using our troops to defend and protect our own borders and shores instead of the borders and shores of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

  • Terry Black

    We’ve got a new Globalist Psyop on the horizon!

    Look up: Kony 2012 Hoax Exposed

    • awakenow

      Terry … yes, thank you for pointing this newest provocation for yet another war, involving U.S. money and U.S. military for reasons that have zero to do with the truth.

  • Old Faithful Geyser

    It looks to me like Obama tried to brow beat Netanyahu into NOT striking Iran until 2013.
    If I calculate that right, this would be after he has gotten his ass beat in the elections and therefore will be safe from making a decision to go to war. That way the Democrats can blame a Republican, again.
    Benjamin Netanyahu, is by far a better leader than Obama.
    I could only wish that he would ask all of the Jewish People in this country to remember how Obama HATES Israel and to vote him out of office along with a the likes of Schmuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid.

    • awakenow

      Let Israel do whatever it feels it must in order to protect itself, which it is very capable of doing with its own 200+ nuclear weapon, sophisticated anti-ballistic, arsenal. Israel is a sovereign nation and it should not have to ask permission of any country, including our own.

      However, let it be made clear to Israel that If and when it begins its war with Iran, it is on its own. Unless Iran directly threatens our country, or we are facing an imminent attack, this country should stay out of this conflict.

      We are facing economic oblivion with a staggering national and unfunded liability and obligation (SS, Medicare, Medicaid) debt over 116 TRILLION added together. We have now joined the other deadbeat nations like Greece with a Debt to GDP Ratio of over 100%. We are quite broke.

      Where are we going to get the money to fight, yet another, war? Borrow more from China or have the Fed print up some more money out of thin air, backed by no hard asset like gold/silver?

      Maintaining the dollar, as the world’s reserve currency, is our real security threat … not Iran getting a nuke that may try to lob at Israel or us … Iran knowing full well that it will be turned into a nuclear wasteland if it even tries.

      It is way past time to bring our troops home and stop fighting never-ending, bankrupting, wars in countries that want us out. We must fix ourselves, because no one else will.

  • IGoaAComment

    From “Aliens” – 1986. … Aliens – “I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit”

    • awakenow

      Look into the faces of the babies and little children of Iran, and then come back and say that again.

      Your suggestion, to just annihilate millions of innocents who, like us, are lied to on a daily basis by their controlling government, shows your comboy, superior, God-like mentality. Your thoughtless comment is the very reason this country is hated by so many around the world … particularly in the Middle East where we have meddled for decades and, as a result, caused the deaths of thousands in countries like Iran.

      I’m talking about the CIA crafted uprisings in Iran that led to the removal of a democratically elected president, Mossadegh, back in 1953. His replacement, our puppet president, the Shah of Iran ruled until 1979 and killed thousands of his own people … and the birth of the CIA term “blowback.”

      Back then it was about access to Iran’s cheap oil and Mossadegh’s plan to nationalize it, making it much more expensive.

      Then, as now, our “wars of choice” since WW2 are waged for access other countries’ natural resources, as in oil, as well as the tremendous wealth afforded to those who benefit the most from a constant state of war … big corporation defense contractors, banking cartel war profiteers and oil conglomerates.

      • awakenow

        … shows your “cowboy”, superior, God-like mentality…

  • awakenow

    We use our troops to fight wars for oil.